Self diagnosis and realisation

There are people that say that pwNPD are often in a relationship with pwBPD. I don't know could be the case for you. I am not a psychologist, but this makes me thinking more of psychopathic traits (hope I am not going to offend you by this, it's just my point of you). I understand your concern about seeing a shrink, but if you wanna be sure about knowing what you have thats the only way to know it.

Mac91 wrote:I honestly don't know. Will I ever be able to be anything other than who I am? Maybe come to terms with it and trying to stop/tone down some of the more hurtful things I do is the best I'll manage. That's why I cam here for advice that I rarely ever seek. Which makes me feel usually vulnerable....

Well first question would be if you suffer from it? Do you?

Knoxious wrote:Why would you want to be anything other than you?

That's a good question.

I suppose it depends if your happy with who you are

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Jean33 wrote:There are people that say that pwNPD are often in a relationship with pwBPD. I don't know could be the case for you. I am not a psychologist, but this makes me thinking more of psychopathic traits (hope I am not going to offend you by this, it's just my point of you). I understand your concern about seeing a shrink, but if you wanna be sure about knowing what you have thats the only way to know it.

Well first question would be if you suffer from it? Do you?

You won't offend me I came to terms with being different ( whilst not knowing why) a long time ago. I'm pretty sure if I saw a shrink and they know exactly what goes on In my head they'd lock me away haha plus I find situations like that very uncomfortable and anxiety inducing. Though your right it's the only way to truly know.

As for suffering, I have good days and bad. Bit like a emotional roller-coaster

My understanding, is that people with NPD are happy with who they are. They just incidentally create problems for themselves because of their overblown ego. Though i may be projecting.

Can someone confirm?

Maybe. I don't have NPD, but my friend with the disorder would never ever admit that he had it unless it was to defend himself or when he'd joke about it. Usually, true narcissists never think that there's anything wrong with them, but I applaud you for coming onto these forums and taking the first step into recovery. That's always the most difficult thing to do when it comes to mental illness, specifically personality disorders. I would recommend seeing a psychiatrist or psychologist if you think you do suffer from this problem.
Looking over your replies and everyone else's, it could also be Antisocial PD and/or Schizoid PD. But I cannot diagnose you, nor can anyone else on this site, which is, again, why I recommend a visit to a medical professional.

Mac91 wrote:
You won't offend me I came to terms with being different ( whilst not knowing why) a long time ago. I'm pretty sure if I saw a shrink and they know exactly what goes on In my head they'd lock me away haha plus I find situations like that very uncomfortable and anxiety inducing. Though your right it's the only way to truly know.

As for suffering, I have good days and bad. Bit like a emotional roller-coaster

May depends on where you live, I told my psychdoc about some really ###$ up nasty thoughts I have where I thought I would be locked up, but I am still here. Our mind can be really messed up sometimes, especially anxiety can make you think some weird stuff.
And yep talking about what is in your mind to a psychiatrist or psychologist can make you very anxious and uncomfortable, I know what you mean. The most difficult for me was and still is being honest and not lying or masking up things that are in my mind, cause I feel a huge shame and it makes me feeling bad to admit what I really am and really think.

Knoxious wrote:My understanding, is that people with NPD are happy with who they are. They just incidentally create problems for themselves because of their overblown ego. Though i may be projecting.

Can someone confirm?

Hyde wrote:Maybe. I don't have NPD, but my friend with the disorder would never ever admit that he had it unless it was to defend himself or when he'd joke about it. Usually, true narcissists never think that there's anything wrong with them, but I applaud you for coming onto these forums and taking the first step into recovery. That's always the most difficult thing to do when it comes to mental illness, specifically personality disorders. I would recommend seeing a psychiatrist or psychologist if you think you do suffer from this problem.

I think maybe full blown persons with NPD are totaly fine with what they are in most cases, at least they don't think something is wrong with them. I am wondering if a full blown person with NPD can be really aware of his disorder? I often read that a person with full blown NPD would never think of himself having NPD or having a disorder in general, so the conclusion would be if you are questioning yourself having NPD you can be sure of not having a NPD. That's what is often said, but if that would be true so nobody with NPD would write in this forum, but there are pwNPD writing in this forum, or that means that those people are having only traits and not a full blown NPD, I don't know, difficult topic.

Hyde wrote:Looking over your replies and everyone else's, it could also be Antisocial PD and/or Schizoid PD.

Not sure about that, isn't a person with schizoid PD searching for distance in relationships? He want to be closed, but he just can't which makes them suffering a lot? Can't read much about that from what he told about his relationships. Maybe someone else with SPD knows more about that.

Mac91 wrote:Because even though I'm excellent and know it why not be able to look fantastic? Plus lies help you get what you want in a great deal of circumstances

Fantastic never hurts
Still prefer not to lie Just because you are already Fantastic if lie will be too much Like you are from another better planet
In this point of my life I can not see when I can benefit from lie. I am involved in business and lie to the partners can damage it. Need to be clear than ever as black and white. If you want to work in long run.
About little thing to lie - no much to gain to waist my energy.. so no.

Mac91 wrote:I'm 26 years old and I donht contact my family because I feel very little care for them, I genuinely don't think once about them in weeks, maybe occasionally a get a pang when I'm feeling down but very rarely.

People annoy me and social media is just one big people fest I hate falseness ( which I feel social media is) even though I know I'm false 90% of the time

I am the same, with everybody. Unless they are in the immediate vicinity I rarely think about them at all, and don't have any feeling that I 'miss' them. Sometimes a relative will call and say, "I've not seen you for ages", and I'll think, "So what? We can talk on the phone, what's the big deal about having to meet up?" Of course I won't actually say that.

I honestly think you may be Antisocial PD with traits of Narcissistic PD, but that's just my opinion. Again, I cannot diagnose you.