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Re: Do the powers that be really trust us that much?

Postby Après L Orage » Fri Sep 11, 2015 10:28 pm

Burke wrote:Even people with other PDs don't really understand NPD that well, that's why it has to be someone with NPD, in my not so humble opinion


Masquerade was HPD and a good mod. Experience counts, a mod from another forum could do a great job as well, IMO.
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Re: Do the powers that be really trust us that much?

Postby Burke » Fri Sep 11, 2015 10:35 pm

There's something to be said for the potency of fresh blood too though. I guess we need some willing candidates first though. Just no Donald Trump, please! :lol:

Seriously though, is lollie the only one who's volunteered so far?
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Re: Do the powers that be really trust us that much?

Postby Après L Orage » Fri Sep 11, 2015 10:47 pm

Burke wrote:There's something to be said for the potency of fresh blood too though. I guess we need some willing candidates first though. Just no Donald Trump, please!


lol

Burke wrote:Seriously though, is lollie the only one who's volunteered so far?


I do not understand, why can't she simply propose herself to the lead mods? Based on her longevity here, on her involvement, and on her confidence, it seems like she has a good chance...

And why are you speaking for her? Are you gonna speak for her as well when she'll be a mod? :wink:
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Re: Do the powers that be really trust us that much?

Postby graveflower » Fri Sep 11, 2015 10:58 pm

hellmaker wrote:Stupid question. With the amount of hormones they put into chicken that really is a no brainier winner for the beef don't you think so?

Ice cream or Chocolate?



Swiss Chocolate.



Butt plugs or beads?
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Re: Do the powers that be really trust us that much?

Postby BoardUser » Sat Sep 12, 2015 1:38 am

Rabbit furry suit or bear furry suit?

Lol @ OP re: coverts being moderated by their guilty consciences.

From a purely selfish perspective I like the Overts being Overt. No sackcloth and ashes. No stigma attached. There are what, like 4 of you that post regularly? We Coverts can hold up the "therapeutic" side of the forms as well.

I would love to have a mod or two, either Loli or Akuma would be great. Akuma reminds me of VA Esquire a little bit in that he is a font of knowledge.
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Re: Do the powers that be really trust us that much?

Postby HR_p » Sat Sep 12, 2015 2:21 am

For those who've been around this forum for more than a year, do you think the positives of having a moderator outweigh the negatives?

Negatives
Not once, since I started to post here a couple of months ago, have I felt the need to be careful or tone down my opinion for fear of being moderated. I didn't even realize there was a moderator here. Light touch.

So there have been times I've hit "Submit" when I might not have been as quick to post if the idea of a moderator monitoring me was always on my mind. I get enough of that cr@p at work. Too much self-editing happens.

Maybe once or twice the trolling has caught my attention away from the purpose of a thread and discussion. As soon as I saw the fake name, I was curious to see how the group would handle the distraction and call for attention. Everybody did a fantastic job, I think. But secretly, deep down inside my striped, traited shirt, I just knew that we could win this person over. Debate macht recht. I was actually pulling for the Brit team to get the job done. Those accents.

Positives
I will admit that the idea of an active moderator makes me wonder if we could use the moderator to overcome the issue with the lack of organization.

Users are forced to resort to repetitively restating descriptions and definitions, re-hashing old debates until everybody gets back on the same page, and generally having to cut/paste entire themes in order to ensure the reader is "with it."

And another thing: there is a scarcity of agreed-upon terms.

For the sake of pwNPD and those who are around them. this type of forum (maybe not this particular forum, but one of them) needs to take the bull by the b@lls and decide they are true stakeholders in this field and make some decisions.

Pretty soon, the funding in several sovereign nations for development of health IT standards will be extended to more issues pertaining to psych treatment, personality disorders and the use of electronic records for them. This health issue presents a huge cost to economies in terms of lost productivity, ill-conceived and ineffective treatments and insurance fraud. Once decision-makers realize the potential, stakeholders will be recruited to participate in the initiatives intended to permit all of the same applications to mental health practitioners, institutions and patients. Sites such as this will be tapped for participation.

But they are not ready.

O.K., I've gotten that off my chest now and I'm going back to my crocheting.
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Re: Do the powers that be really trust us that much?

Postby Truth too late » Sat Sep 12, 2015 2:55 am

HR_p wrote:this type of forum ... needs to take the bull by the [horns] and decide they are true stakeholders in this field and make some decisions.

Pretty soon, the funding in several sovereign nations for development of health IT standards will be extended to more issues pertaining to ... personality disorders.... [S]takeholders will be recruited to participate in the initiatives.... Sites such as this will be tapped for participation.


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We should update our résumés because crazy will be a job skill soon? How do we (or this site) contribute to IT standards? How does everyone's [unashamed] craving for an authority figure affect that?
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Re: Do the powers that be really trust us that much?

Postby HR_p » Sat Sep 12, 2015 4:19 am

Yes, maybe using moderators in some way to create more organization is not possible. Maybe that is not a positive.

A number of sites like this generate data/input/ideas, participant volunteers and support for public initiatives on the health IT side.

If your health problem were Crohn's and this site were a support forum for sufferers, it would be a good source of data for various topics such as use of online support, means and methods for obtaining patient-generated data, and others. You'd be a typical volunteer in the general public or patient groups.
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Re: Do the powers that be really trust us that much?

Postby Truth too late » Sat Sep 12, 2015 4:41 am

HR_p wrote:means and methods for obtaining patient-generated data, and others.

Are you talking about site admin? Like this site becoming a "WebMd?" Members will become demographic info? promoting practitioners? focus groups?, a platform for researchers to find participants for studies?

You're right in a market-based sense. If I owned this domain I'd be thinking of that potential. I guess that taps into my thoughts about how this site doesn't seem like it's been updated since 2008 (no features/tools), and there's no "staff lounge" where visitors can make site suggestions, etc. That's ok for what seems like a low-contact, low-profile site for people just to express themselves psychologically. An anonymous confessional.

I don't know how members would feel about WebMD. Some evolution would be good. (Honestly, newer forum wares have some useful features.). But, I don't think I'd feel the same if it had that kind of corporate-lab feel. Like, we generate demographic info, and our words are "mined" for content.

(I know we do that now to some extent with google. That is hopefully anonymous.).

Perfect, maybe that will help everyone resist the dark side. We're doing fine without a taskmaster.

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Re: Do the powers that be really trust us that much?

Postby realityhere » Sat Sep 12, 2015 6:23 am

I'm a non, and to be honest, I like the way the NPD forum has been so far, with no mod. Sure, some ppl are gonna come on this forum not knowing much abut NPD and demonize the disordered person, but the NPD forum's questions-and-replies format has provided a wealth of info that other sites do not provide. Many NPD posters are gentle enough to remind such ppl that pwPDs are afflicted with an inability to understand what they do in the moment and grapple with issues within their selves that are far harder to admit and control.

I'd hate for a mod transferring a non's question about NPD to be shuttled here n' there, when the poster may very well have a valid concern about his own or a relative's suspected disorder being NPD. The self-aware posters on NPD know well enough the symptomatic parts of this disorder to opine yes or no, he/she may have this disorder and advise accordingly to go with therapy, meditation, or whatever. I've never read anything contrary-- posters have been forward, informative, and honest enough so far.

Oh yeah, I've lurked on the AsPD forum-- posters there are catty and funny, but there's no depth to feelings, which is not surprising, given that some pwAsPD lack empathy. They are very rational and don't care what others think, and that's ok to a point. Beyond which there's not much discussion. Not criticizing folks there, every forum has a flavor to it.

But the NPD forum has a depth of, how to put it?---- repressed /unexpressed feelings? that both pwNPD and nons can discuss and understand.

I see no reason for a NPDforum mod yet, IMO.
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