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MSBP Diagnosis/Emotional Abuse Only?

Postby Uska » Wed Aug 03, 2011 3:20 pm

I have a question. I posted regarding the NPD man from whom I recently fled over on the NPD forum. He claims he has custody of his eldest, special needs child, because the mother has been diagnosed with MSBP. If this were the case, why would the mother still have custody of the other three younger children? And has there been precedent set for MSBP diagnoses utilizing only emotional abuse?

The NPD I speak of has custody of his teenage son, who apparently spent 2 years in a special school prior to going to live with dad. Whenever I would try to talk about the situation, and questioned the mother's mental fitness for retaining custody of the other three children, he would sidestep the issue. He did say, though, that she was "diagnosed with Munchausens by Proxy. In all my reading I've never seen where that's been diagnosed based on emotional abuse of another.

Does anyone have any info on this?

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Re: MSBP Diagnosis/Emotional Abuse Only?

Postby CrackedGirl » Thu Aug 04, 2011 8:49 am

I am not a professional but if there was a firm diagnosis of MSBP I would think it highly unlikely that the other children would remain with the mother. I also have not heard about MSBP being caused solely by emotional abuse although others may be able to advise you more about that. Do you need to have anything to do with this man? Are you worried about the kids with the mother? What I am getting at is it sounds like it is an unlikely story and if you have fled from him then it is perhaps better to walk away unless you have serious thoughts that the remaining children may be in danger, in which case you should report it then walk away.

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Re: MSBP Diagnosis/Emotional Abuse Only?

Postby Uska » Wed Aug 17, 2011 10:34 pm

Thank you for your confirmation of my suspicion! I currently have nothing to do with this man. I recently re-read the process of his divorce online. The actual content isn't public information, but each court appearance and what it was for and what was requested IS public knowledge. I'd read through it prior to first becoming involved with him since I'd met him on an online dating site. I researched him as well as I could. The proceedings were long and involved and I missed the part where he requested to have a psychiatrist's report regarding HIM struck from the record. The motion was denied.

I have since come to believe that this man may have been diagnosed NPD. I can't be certain, but his behavior certainly aligns with it, and I was suspicious when he said his ex was diagnosed with MBPS based solely on emotional abuse. His only description, when I asked about that, was "(son's name)'s relationship with his mother was toxic."

Okay, that may be true, because custody of that son was awarded to this man and the son WAS sent to a special school for two years. But the son is also learning disabled and special needs, so I'm thinking the "toxicity" of the relationship may have had more to do with that than anything having to do with MBPS.

My experience with this man aligns very well with the "honeymoon, devalue, discard" phases of NPD "relationships."

I don't believe the other children are in danger. I think that if they were, based on the court records, the other three would have been removed from the home. I think the issues are far different from what this man told me they are, and frankly, at this point, I don't care what they are. The children aren't being physically abused and since I'm no longer in contact with the man, I know nothing more than what I've posted here about the children.
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Re: MSBP Diagnosis/Emotional Abuse Only?

Postby CrackedGirl » Thu Aug 18, 2011 8:21 am

It sounds like you have done all you can and it is time to get on with living your life. Good luck.

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