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Postby HesDeltanCaptain » Sun Nov 17, 2013 5:03 pm

How about a Religion group where discussions about the sometimes...Interesting things religions aspouse that might aggravate people here (sometimes with problems seperating fantasy from reality already) could be discussed. I see the cult abuse group has some of these kinds of threads but "cult abuse" isn't really on target. A less biased "Religion" group would be better I'd think. So many problems people have with sexual guilt and other things come from religion, why it wouldn't be okay to discuss or pay attention to would be curious.
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Re: Group Idea

Postby salted lipstick » Mon Nov 18, 2013 12:43 am

There are forums more suitable than a mental health forum to discuss religion and it's impact on people's lives. I'd suggest Google will probably yield several suitable sites for those interested in such discussions...

There are no plans to add additional forums here at this stage. Thank you for your suggestion regardless.
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Re: Group Idea

Postby HesDeltanCaptain » Mon Nov 18, 2013 2:52 pm

Bummer. Figured since so many identify as some religion it'd be a big part of mental health. Reading the rules earlier I noticed with raised eyebrow the Golden Rule then right below it something to the effect of we don't uphold or support any given religion and respect them all equally. I love the Golden Rule as well as Wiccan Rede and mention them both often even though Jewish. But my affinity for the reliigon is more about the text itself than whether there's a deity ultimately. Since gods dopn't seem to involve themselves overtly, all religions really are are rulebooks, and I like the 613 rules of Judaism :) Whether there's a god or not matters less to me than the rules are (usually) pretty sensible. But it doesn't much imagination to see that if a person's especially devout and believes in their deity in al iteral sense, that any mental issues might be more easily udnerstood through the lens of a religious discussion than purely a scientific one.

Being a proponent of science and religion (as opposed to one orthe other) a quote from Dr. King comes to mind,
"Science investigates; religion interprets. Science gives man knowledge, which is power; religion gives man wisdom, which is control. Science deals mainly with facts; religion deals mainly with values. The two are not rivals." - Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.
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Re: Group Idea

Postby salted lipstick » Tue Nov 19, 2013 1:24 pm

HesDeltanCaptain wrote:But it doesn't much imagination to see that if a person's especially devout and believes in their deity in al iteral sense, that any mental issues might be more easily udnerstood through the lens of a religious discussion than purely a scientific one.
I agree with this core part of your point. I know through experience though that as it gets brought up here on the forum, even if it starts off as being in a context to try to help people understand their mental health issues, it tends to derail into a debate purely about religion and belief in God. Which is generally not helpful overall because it creates bad feeling between people usually to argue like this on something that is so core to the heart of their beliefs (be they religious or not) and usually that's not particularly helpful to have a bunch of members on the forum who are feeling their core beliefs have been attacked (aka questioned) and can feel like they aren't supported by those people in their pursuit to help resolve some of their mental health issues. Whilst it isn't necessarily the case at all that the people who disagree with others views on religion are not supportive of the people they reply to- it's in general a much more productive place as a supportive mental health forum when debates about religion don't enter into it. Hence the forum rules about tolerance and not excessively bringing it up...

You do seem particularly knowledgeable about religious beliefs, HesDeltanCaptain, so I would certainly encourage you to find a suitable place to discuss these aspects of your interest, even though it won't end up being in this forum. :)
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Re: Group Idea

Postby HesDeltanCaptain » Tue Nov 19, 2013 2:05 pm

That probably works too. By excluding the religious component people with such convictions wont be here anyway so limiting help to a secular position will cater to those more in the secular camp than religious or something in-between.
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