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by Chucky » Mon Aug 03, 2009 10:46 pm
You know, all that is nothing new really because it's documented (and accepted) that vaccines will kill some individuals; but their benefits for the mass population outweigh those isolated deaths. A vaccine is inherently risky, given that it's an actual form of the disease in question (albeit an attenuated version of it).
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by Parador » Mon Aug 03, 2009 11:02 pm
Yes. I know that. But the idea of possible permanent paralysis is more than a bit creepy.
Guillain-Barré syndrome is an acute illness involving the peripheral nervous system that usually occurs two to three weeks after a flu-like disease or other infections. It is mostly a motor neuropathy, meaning that its symptoms are largely related to the involvement of the motor nerves. Despite the primarily motor nature of the disease, the earliest symptoms may be numbness and tingling felt in the lower extremities followed shortly by weakness of the distal muscles of the lower extremities. The common early symptoms reported by patients are those of tripping on the toes that later results in a foot drop. The weakness usually ascends to involve the entire lower extremities and later the upper extremities. The danger occurs when the weakness involves the muscles of respiration. At that time prompt intubation and admission to the Intensive Care Unit is required. Although Guillain-Barré syndrome is usually a self-limiting illness, prompt recognition of the symptomatology and correct diagnosis are required for intensive observation and therapeutic intervention.
The diagnosis of Guillain-Barré syndrome is suggested when the patient presents with a history of ascending weakness and a physical examination consistent with a primarily motor neuropathy. The diagnosis is confirmed with the performance of a spinal tap, which usually shows elevation of the protein level in the spinal fluid without an increase in the number of white cells and by an electromyogram. All other conditions resembling Guillain-Barré syndrome must also be excluded.
Once the diagnosis is confirmed, treatment is initiated with intravenous gamma globulin or plasma exchange. Both of these treatment modalities have been shown to reduce the duration of illness and to affect the extent of final recovery. When diagnosed early and appropriately treated, patients usually start recovering within a few days. Full recovery usually occurs after two or more months of the illness. The treatment, however, is not effective in all patients and a few patients fail to recover full strength. Guillain-Barré syndrome is usually a monophasic illness that rarely recurs.
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by Leviathan » Mon Aug 03, 2009 11:23 pm
Chucky wrote:That's why I'd like to see the papers that are signed prior to such studies, because i imagine that they legally protect the company from paying out huge lump sums, even in the event of death. If the person as signed such a form, then that's....They know the risks.
Yeah I know, if they sign a form and they no the risks then not much can be done.
Just think you'd have to be mad or very desperate to take such a risk.
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by Parador » Mon Aug 03, 2009 11:32 pm
My thinking is that if it messes me up I can just kill myself. Life stinks right now. $1000 would be handy for a hooker party up in Montreal.
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by Chucky » Tue Aug 04, 2009 9:24 pm
That money would also be handy sitting in your bank account waiting to be used for the right thing. Why don't you put your efforts into becoming a miser? It can be fun trying your best to minimis cost. I view it as a game.
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by Parador » Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:16 pm
I did that years ago after I graduated from college. Four years of school and thousands of dollars didn't help me get a job. I was living on $1 sacks of potatoes. I'm past that stage of my life. I want hookers and opera.
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by Parador » Sun Aug 30, 2009 4:22 am
Booger. Got turned down for the drug study because I had taken steroid shots for my foot. It was only a phase I study anyway. Only 70 other peoople had taken it - a live attenuated virus.
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