effexor vs Self Discovery (?)

Hey.

First of all. I'm not "Anti-effexor" and this really isn't meant to be an "Anti-effexor" thread so deal with that. I took it for 8 yrs from 16 to 24 because it was damn effective at killing the super natu rl.....in my head. And that reeeeaaaaalllly screwed me.


Self discovery, in whatever form i don't even care right now.

Think it's possible on more than 75mg of effexor?
Experienced it on more than 75mg?

Should people strongly motivated by emotion be encouraged to take large amounts of effexor without being told they maybe probably shouldn't.

Being manipulated is awesome by the way.

I don't know...talk about stuff.

It pains me to say but that's a tragedy we all must face. Something the only way to dull the ripping knieves of depression is the numb our hearts so we no longer feel the stabs as strongly. The truth is that many of our medicines are a lot like painkillers in that they can help us deal but can't solve the real problem. We still are unsure what causes depression in a biological aspect and so as of now we must work with what we have.

Usually the effect will clear after you have stopped using it for awhile and there are medicines out there which are less likely to cause that effect. As you probably know effexor takes action on three neurotransmitters; serintonin, dopamine, and norepinephrine at once making it a bit of a stronger med. than most. Another class out there, the ssri class, only effect serintonin making them less likely to make you feel numb.

Sometimes the more personal and psychological aspects of depression tend to be more overwhalming and at times working on those can be more effective than any medication. For me when I finally began working on some trama issues, finding meaning again, and building new relationships my depression began to leave. I learned that there was still hope for me to go after my dreams, that people were out there who cared about me, that some things really do matter, and most of all that i am still the person i was before everything happened.

Mental illness has a way of stealing our identities, we feel like we are no longer the people we were like 'I'm not Jen, I'm a person with Tourette Syndrome, OCD ADHD and whocares what else' but when we can remember who we were and are and go back to the things that once brought us passion and meaning then sometimes we can recover our spirit. Sometimes it takes building new passions, trying new things, and doing things you never thought possible. For me this meant doing things i hadn't done for ages like getting on a rollar coaster, calling ppl i hadn't spoken with in ages, watching a sunrise again, roasting mashmellows, and lighting candles.

If you ever want to talk feel free to MSN me at urgodandiamnot@hotmail.com

~Jen

sunrise...thank you. I'm an idiot.....i live within walking distance of a freaking beach. Yes i'm that dysfunctional...or neurotic, both i don't know. I suck.

Don't put yourself down like that. From what I've heard you say on the fourm you seem like a very intelligent and strong person who is struggling in the oceans of depression. Even the strongest of among us find it difficult to overcome.

Something I've found which has helped me get more deeply in touch with myself is art. For me this includes music (the trumpet), writin and painting. For you it could be anything from dance to flagwaving. It doesn't have to be anything in particular and don't worry about how "good" it is just express yourself and let your emotion show. In my belief most of the greatest art has come from depression.

Don't fool yourself into thinking you aren't creative enough. When I first began painting I thought i was terrible and had nothing to offer but after a while i just let loose and found i really love it. Sometimes I don't even look over a painting when I've placed so much emotion into it that it' s overwhalmed and just paint over it because i know that at least I've gotten past this.

Another thing which helps me is just to think and reflect. I light a room with scented candles and just let thoughts flow through my mind. I've learned a lot that way.

~Jen

I think everyone has to be on differet mg's. I'm on Effexor XR and on a very low dose that's not even considered the theraputic dose but I find it extremely helpful.....

Jen pretty much said it all in her post...