is shyness a mental illness?

angelkarmachic wrote:

Guest, you seem very angry, is it a disorder or are you just pissy all the time?

Karma.
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Is there any lab test to identify any lesion that is the cause of shyness? Of course not! There is no lab test for any DSM disorder.

Don't be ridiculous, shyness is not a disease. I can choose to be shy anytime I want to.

Claiming shyness is a medical disease is ideology not science. Moreover, it is just another means for the psychopharmacology industry to increase profits.

Relax guys, just keep this post about shyness. IF it gets out of hand i'll be forced to lock this thread... so everyone place nice.

sadgurl wrote:

element wrote:if shyness was a mental illness, i'd be locked up for certain!! 'cuz i'm not only shy, but scared of crowds, etc.

Social anxiety hon, that's what it is... scared of crowds...

so are you saying that I do have a mental illness? If it's true...that sux!!! or is that not considered an illness? either way it sux though and it can be slightly embarrassing at times, like when I'm at school, and I can't sit on the bleachers with everyone 'cuz I get scared...and everyone stares at me or laughs at me...not fun but that only happens a few times in a somester

There is a push to get shyness into the next DSM. It will depend on how many psychiatrists vote for it's inclusion to the DSM on whether or not it is included.

Another proposal is homophobia. Homosexuality was one a mental illness according to psychiatrists. The Gay rights political movement got it removed from the DSM in 1970. Looks like quackiatry and it's drug company mates are doing the back flip for a bigger market with this inclusion of homophobia in to the new DSM. Never mind they cant find any medical cause for a single mental illness.

The Psychopharmacology industry is extremely powerful and can sway governments, the FDA and anyone that gets in their way.

What really sux is Bush's (Eli Lilly) plans to screen every person in America for mental illness. This could see anyone that is shy forcefully drugged. In other words they will be forced to consume psychopharmacology industry products therefore increasing drug company profits.

Heres some quotes on the accuracy of psychiatry.

"The fields of human psychology and psychiatry are ... a mess of competing but fundamentally incompatible theories ... Academic psychiatry has all but lost contact with the population it is supposed to serve ... Criticism is, if not actiely discouraged, then politely but very firmly ignored."
N. McLaren, MD, Australian psychiatrist , 1999



"What's happening in the training of psychiatrists and in the quality of a psychiatrist is that they have become drug pushers. They have ... forgotten how to sit down and talk to patients as to what their problems are."
- Walter Afield, psychiatrist, 1994



"... in 40 years, 'biological psychiatry' has yet to validate a single psychiatric condition/diagnosis as an abnormality/disease, or as anything 'neurological', 'biological', 'chemically imbalanced', or 'genetic'."
Dr. Fred A. Baughman Jr., Pediatric Neurologist
"Malpractice and Violation of Informed Consent"



"Everyone is neurotic. I have no trouble giving out diagnoses. In my office I only see abnormal people. Out of my office, I see only normal people. It's up to me. It's just a joke. This is what I mean by this fraud, this arrogant fraud ... To make some kind of pretension that this is a scientific statement is ... damaging to the culture."
- Ron Leifer, psychiatrist, quoted in
Beverly Eakman, Cloning of the American Mind, 1997



"... modern psychiatry has yet to convincingly prove the genetic/biological cause of any single mental illness ... Patients [have] been diagnosed with 'chemical imbalances' despite the fact that no test exists to support such a claim, and ... there is no real conception of what a correct chemical balance would look like."
- David Kaiser, psychiatrist
"Commentary Against Biological Psychiatry"
Psychiatric Times, December 1996



"We do not have proof either of the cause of the physiology for any psychiatric diagnosis ... In the absence of any verifiable diseases, in recent decades, psychopharmacology has not hesitated to construct 'disease models' for psychiatric diagnoses."
- Dr. Joseph Glenmullen
Clinical Instructor in Psychiatry
Harvard Medical School, 2000



"Hyperactivity is not a disease. It's a hoax perpetrated by doctors who have no idea what's really wrong with these children."
- Dr. Sydney Walker III, psychiatrist
The Hyperactivity Hoax



"Freud was wrong in almost every important respect."
- Frank Sulloway, Professor of Psychology, quoted in
John Horgan, The Undiscovered Mind



"What do you do when you don't know what to do? No wonder there are more suicides among psychiatrists than in any other profession."
Psychiatrist R. D. Laing
Wisdom, Madness, and Folly, p. 126



"Over the years it [the National Committee for Mental Hygiene] has championed for the promotion of 'mental health' despite the fact that nobody knows what it is or how to do it."
E. Fuller Torrey, psychiatrist
Nowhere to Go, New York: Harper and Row, 1988



"The basic question with which psychiatrists and particularly those interested in mental hygiene start is -- What are the causes of mental and nervous disease? This question has been repeatedly raised during the twenty-two years of organized mental hygiene until it has almost become a ritual and like a ritual has led to nothing except repetition -- not even a start."
Frankwood E. Williams, Director,
National Committee for Mental Hygiene,
"Is there a Mental Hygiene",
Psychoanalytic Quarterly, 1932, p. 113-20



"Many psychiatrists have had, at least to some degree, the unsettling and bewildering feeling that what they have been doing has been largely worthless and that the premises on which they have based their professional lives were partly fraudulent"
E. Fuller Torrey, M.D., psychiatrist

element wrote:

sadgurl wrote:

element wrote:if shyness was a mental illness, i'd be locked up for certain!! 'cuz i'm not only shy, but scared of crowds, etc.

Social anxiety hon, that's what it is... scared of crowds...

so are you saying that I do have a mental illness? If it's true...that sux!!! or is that not considered an illness?

Social anxiety isn't a mental illness Element.
It's just a term used to describe the feeling you experience; verbal shorthand.
There is nothing wrong with you, or even unusual, because you feel nervous or scared in a crowd.

Anxiety can be classified as that yes (mental illness). Any anxiety can, just like depression, etc. Social Anxiety is an anxiety disorder, that element I was saying could be the cause with your shyness and crowds.

yeah. i don't think i have a mental illness, though.

Have you ever had a diagnosis with anything element?

element wrote:yeah. i don't think i have a mental illness, though.

I totally agree!

Anybody with an ounce of common sense know's shyness is not a disease with a medical cause.

The way to sell drugs is to sell psychiatric illness.

I wonder how long it will be before the drug companies will want to expand their market further and TALKATIVE-BOASTFULL people will have a disease and drugs applied to their behavior?