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Re: what is my husband's condition?

Postby just-tonight » Mon Jan 26, 2015 11:02 am

Priscilla13 wrote:Hi just-tonight,

I am not a professional (I don’t think anyone here is) and I have never been in a physically abusive relationship. I have stayed with guys who were obviously not very nice to me because I thought I loved them, but what I really wanted was for someone to love me and the facts told me that those guys did not love me, but I just did not want to believe it.

I think everyone is trying to get a better picture of this situation in order to advise you, there are some cultures where women are looked at as the property of men; either their fathers or husbands. I am not going to name any specific cultures there are multiple of them, so I think the question that shockley123 was asking was in an attempt to figure out if your husband’s behavior would be perceived as normal within the cultural beliefs/norms of where ever your husband is from/was raised. Finnland does not strike me as such a place.

When you say you left the States 2 months ago, I am assuming you mean the United States? Did this traumatic event occur in the United States or was it after you moved to Mumbai? If this happened before you moved to Mumbai I am wondering if your husband wanted to move there because it would make it more difficult for you to leave him and you would be more dependent on him, thus you were more likely to accept his horrible behavior. In Mumbai I do not believe that a man can be found guilty of raping his wife, he can in the United States.

I do not know what your husband’s disorder is exactly. There are not any “anti-sadism” drugs that you can buy and slip into his drink. If he indeed needs medication for something, only a doctor should decide what the medication would be. That is not a good or safe plan.

Here is my opinion about your husband, please keep in mind this is only my opinion.

I think that your husband is actually an insecure person who over the years developed some issues controlling his severe rages at the way that he perceived that others were treating him.

In order to feel better and more powerful/in control he seems to want to be very possessive over what he thinks is his (unfortunately he thinks you are his in an unhealthy way) and that was part of the reason that he so aggressively attacked your male friend.

However I also think that he was happy to use your friend as his personal punching bag as an outlet for the rage he felt at you insisting on sexual boundaries. I think that although he may have been telling you..”No problem.” That you setting what he perceived as ‘the rules of the relationship’ was indeed making him feel very angry inside.

I do not know how long you dated and he waited to have sex with you, but I think that his anger built up and built up. He felt that you were the one with the power and control in the relationship.

And so when your husband had the opportunity to be in control and to be the one with the power, all of that rage was released on to you and he felt that he was finally the one who was in control.

I think that when Babybowrain said that your husband is lying about who he is, that what she meant is that all along your husband played the role of the chivalrous guy who was willing to wait and respect you, when actually he was angry and wanted to control the relationship and you.

You mentioned that you met at a college party, I am assuming this was in the United States, and that he is Finnish and that you are half Finnish. You said that you were amazed to meet another Finn so you started dating. It seems to me that perhaps your family was not in the United States or that you felt like you needed/wanted to connect with someone who had a similar cultural background as yours.

I think your husband saw that you were feeling a bit lonely and so he played a role…that of the best friend/wonderful boyfriend to make you fall in love with him. I think that people like your husband are very good at seeing another person’s vulnerabilities in order to take advantage of them.

You say that you love your husband and that you want for him to get well, yet you also say that if you leave he would try to start a war against you. I am not exactly sure what a war against you means, but obviously you believe that his behavior would be mean/aggressive and in some way detrimental to your well being.

So I think you should ask yourself a question that I have had to ask myself in the past…Do you love your husband or do you love who you want for him to be? Because in my opinion, and again you have posted here for advice/opinions, your husband is a controlling conniving bully who played the role of the wonderful best friend boyfriend all the while he was becoming angrier and angrier that you were denying something (sex) that he thought he had the right to.

And at the first opportunity where he could justify his behavior, he established his control and dominance over you. The fact that you are afraid of what he would do if you left, shows that this control and dominance is impacting your choices in life, which is just how he wants for you to feel..that you do not have any options.

I hope that you always keep your passport in a place that you can get to it if you need it. That you have found a job where you are earning your own money and that you save some that he does not know about and that you have your own credit cards. I think you should begin to at least make a plan on how you would leave if/when that is what is needed.

You are isolated now, but as soon as possible and without him knowing, begin to take actions that will allow you to be in control of your own destiny.

I am so sorry that this happened to you. I do not think that your husband will ever change and I don’t think that you will ever feel safe, loved and happy with him. Everyone deserves those things. It took me a long time, but I finally found a person who would give me that kind of life. I could have found someone who really loved me and treated me well a lot sooner, if I hadn't stayed with men who treated me badly because I was too insecure to leave them. Instead I chose to hope that they would change and so I wasted many years of my life.


this is so close to what a psychiatrist told me and i'm devastated to be having to get into this by myself in this place as i'm too shy to disclose what my husband does to my friends and my parents already know but they chose not to support me and all this confuses me since i don't know if he's a psychopath/sociopath or not but i'm kinda sure he isn't he does good and actually involved in charity and i've learned that he is a very good team leader at work and very supportive and this i know cuz he supported me a lot before marriage he was always there to pick me up whenever i was feeling down or like i wasn't gonna pass this exam or get that degree he just pushed me forward it's like i don't know him anymore i mean hes still the same supportive smart guy but somehow he unleashes this dark thing in him which i know is there and it surfaces most of the time now but he used to be my best friend i'm lost i don't have the courage or energy to fight this war against him and i'm scared to death of what he might do if he knew
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Re: what is my husband's condition?

Postby Snaga » Mon Jan 26, 2015 3:04 pm

Sounds as if you're still trying to find a straw to grasp?

It doesn't matter how wonderful he is outside of the home, if you are afraid of him in it.
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Re: what is my husband's condition?

Postby just-tonight » Mon Jan 26, 2015 9:31 pm

snaga2.0 wrote:Sounds as if you're still trying to find a straw to grasp?

It doesn't matter how wonderful he is outside of the home, if you are afraid of him in it.

its just that i don't wanna give up on him he used to be my best friend and my biggest supporter , besides i'm so not ready to going into this war , not against him . Am i afraid of him? yes, i am. Am i ready to go head on with him? hell no. so i'm trying to find if there's something i could do to him maybe be more caring like take off his jacket when he gets home i know this sounds silly but i'm thinking maybe if he found me more attentive to him he wouldn''t be like this. honestly i don't know, i cook , clean and do practically everything around the house i also have a job to take care of . i'm lost, i don''t know what to do for him.all i know is i'm too scared, and don't have many resources in here to help me stand against him, i just want this over , you know? i'm crying all the time and scared .
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Re: what is my husband's condition?

Postby Snaga » Mon Jan 26, 2015 9:52 pm

And that's why you check with a mission, consulate, or embassy for assistance, and leave as soon as you can
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Re: what is my husband's condition?

Postby Marmotini » Thu Jan 29, 2015 7:15 am

There's nothing you can do to make an abuser stop abusing you. Taking off his jacket after work, fetching his pipe and slippers, making sandwiches....no, see, that's not the point. He will not just stop because you become more submissive. If anything he may just feel more smugly secure that he has you under his thumb. Like many victims of abuse, you blame yourself ....but it's not you, no, this isn't a misunderstanding or argument where you could be more polite or understanding, this is just abuse, and you did nothing to deserve to live in fear of your husband's sexual assault and violence.

Your husband could very well be a sociopath. While psychopaths may be erratic, impulsive and show shocking low empathy, a sociopath can actually be very controlled, scheming, charming and have a "nice" public persona if they have the IQ and education to allow such a facade. Sociopaths run major corporations and organized crime, they are not loving supportive people just because they have a well developed public persona or because they can charm strangers and acquaintences.

Your husband groomed you to be his conquest basically. He was never your best friend, he was luring you into his trap until he had you, and after he had you, he abused you. That's why I now always warn people to be very careful with a person who sweeps you off your feet, seems too good to be true, or to avoid marrying too fast. ...because while normal people may also do silly romantic things, it also leaves a huge door for abusers of various kinds to walk through. Real love develops over time.
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Re: what is my husband's condition?

Postby Snaga » Sat Jan 31, 2015 3:49 pm

Is not 'giving up on him'. It's 'getting the hell off the Titanic'. Seriously. What Marm said. And then some.
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Re: what is my husband's condition?

Postby EarlyMorning » Mon Feb 02, 2015 6:53 pm

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

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Re: what is my husband's condition?

Postby tallis » Tue Feb 03, 2015 6:32 pm

Hi Just,
This has been a hard thread to read, and I'm sorry for the situation you find yourself in.
I've been in an abusive marriage and I've worked with domestic violence centers after divorcing.
What you are in IS abusive. As the other posters have said, it's rape.

you said " i'm so not ready to going into this war , not against him . Am i afraid of him? yes, i am. Am i ready to go head on with him? hell no."

I get what you're saying. Believe me I do. But, do you think, if this continues they way that it is, you will be STRONGER or in a better position to get out of this mess the longer it goes on? The longer you are in this position the more of your strength and your self you will lose. The more he will beat you down (mentally). Will he go to "war" on you? Yeah, he very well could. It sounds from what you have written, that a lot of this is about control and power. And when he thinks he is losing that control, he will begin to flail to try to get it back. Getting out IS the most dangerous time.
You are already walking on eggshells and believe if you could "just be better" than he wouldn't act this way. He is NOT this way because of anything you are doing or not doing. You can not make him change. The only thing you can do, is control your own actions.

I also understand living in a foreign country with your abuser. I lived out of country for three years at the beginning of my marriage. In my case it made me extremely dependent on my x. I developed an "us against the world" mentality. What I didn't get, was that my x wasn't on my team to begin with.

You should not be afraid of someone who is supposed to love you. (and in your case, from what you've said, you are right to be afraid) You deserve more than to cry every day. Unfortunately, the only person that can put an end to this is you. We teach people how to treat us. He is learning he can do this to you and rather than leaving you will instead meet him at the door and take his coat. That is not the kind of repercussion rape deserves. You would be better off alone.

When I got out of my abusive marriage I had no family around, lost everything I'd owned and worked for and went into a massive tailspin. It took about 2 years to rebuild my life from the ashes and be happy. And even on my worst day in that time, (and there were some doozys) I was much better off than with my x. It's not easy. Not by a long shot. But if you get out of an abusive situation, at least you have a chance at happiness. The longer you stay in an abusive relationship, the harder it is to get out. There is no "good time to leave".

I wish you safety on your path. You're stronger than you realize.
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Re: what is my husband's condition?

Postby Ifeelya » Wed Feb 04, 2015 9:32 pm

just-tonight wrote:is my husband sick?


Like an Ebola patient !! Highlighted your own words.


just-tonight wrote:against my will and ignored my pleads for him to stop he didn't


just-tonight wrote: i was scared and kept telling him to put his clothes back on and not to try to touch me but he was laughing which was weird that i was scared and he was laughing


just-tonight wrote:so he ended up forcing himself


just-tonight wrote: hes obsessed with me which scares me sometimes


just-tonight wrote:it's crazy he's so possessive and deep inside i know something is wrong


just-tonight wrote:being in a remote place like this alone with him scares the hell out of me


just-tonight wrote:he won't go to a psychiatrist.....




I think in simplest terms the reason why most people are advising you to leave is because you cant change anyone who doesn't want to be changed ! They have to want it , then take action by seeking help.

He's not going to wake up tomorrow and become a different person just because you love him sooo much, people don't change so easy overnight. Changing yourself and your behavior is one of the hardest things in the world to do. It usually requires life slapping someone in the face (metaphoric's here folks) and giving them a reality check.

Hey there is nothing wrong with kinky sex if that's what both people consent too and I'm sure there are plenty of people who do more nasty stuff here than was mentioned. The difference being it is consensual not some jail house manhandling and forcing yourself on someone then laughing about it, especially when that's your spouse. That sounds to me like someone on a power trip as is often noted these days rape is not about sex but about over powering and violating someone and getting a kick out of it. Even hardcore porno shoots can use safe words to stop the action. This is a sinking ship you don't look for better spot on the boat, you get off !



just-tonight wrote:we left the states 2 months and came to Mumbai cuz he got transferred and we live in a very humble area its not like what i was used to back home


I wouldn't be shocked if his transfer was deliberate to isolate you from friends and family.
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Re: what is my husband's condition?

Postby jumpingjellybean » Sun Feb 08, 2015 11:59 pm

Could you go to the embassy to get bCk to u.s for spousal abuse? He is an abuser thats it.
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