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Re: open discussion about personal conviction's

Postby twistermind » Thu Jul 09, 2009 8:52 pm

We may give our personal convitions, no? and we can agree or not with others personal convitions, no?
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Re: open discussion about personal conviction's

Postby Feel76 » Mon Jul 13, 2009 7:26 am

Do personal convictions determine a personality?Surely, some convictions are not "acceptable". Does that mean some personalities are not acceptable.
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Re: open discussion about personal conviction's

Postby twistermind » Mon Jul 13, 2009 12:47 pm

Feel76 wrote:Do personal convictions determine a personality?Surely, some convictions are not "acceptable". Does that mean some personalities are not acceptable.


You have just asked a really interesting question.
I have to think deeply, but at a first thinking, I would say that convictions may be acceptable or not by other, but this shouldn´t ever mean that a person is not acceptable.
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Re: open discussion about personal conviction's

Postby Brumble » Tue Aug 18, 2009 5:53 pm

This thread has faded out of view but I see some great mind's having meaningful discussion's - so I've brought this thread back into view. :)
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Re: open discussion about personal conviction's

Postby Eric_Lee » Thu Aug 20, 2009 7:28 am

its wierd reading things i wrote so long ago.
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Re: open discussion about personal conviction's

Postby Parador » Wed Aug 26, 2009 6:30 pm

Eric_Lee wrote:Not sure if this would be a conviction, but its somthing i'd change in the world if i could.

I dislike how we defy the natural laws of things, and keep the sickly and weak alive from a young age. The natural way of things is the survival of the fittest. If we followed this, the weak, and sickly that end up milking our governments of billions of dollars would die, and thus save us an abundance of money as a country, that we could then invest somewhere else. I am aware this goes against the common morals that people deserve to live if the means are there, but i still don't see how someone who is sick and weak from the day they're born to the day they die that contributes zero to society deserves to be kept alive using our money.
Anyone on life support should die, as they are supposed to. People with cronic illnesses, mental retardation, and other such illnesses that make them incapable of working and providing for themselves should be killed. If you cannot provide for yourself, you're supposed to die, this whole keeping the sickly alive for the peace of mind of their familys is just absurd, and is the reason our world econemy is failing, atleast i think so. Yes i'm aware of the whole bank thing and such, but think of how much extra money we would have if we took even half the people on life support right now off of it.. millions and millions of dollars. I suppose if you're family can provide for you, or a spouce or somthing, enough to cover what you would be putting in if you were working you'd get to live, but i highly doubt anyone would be willing to pay for someone else to live.. they'd rather just use everyone elses money to provide for it, and that right there is a fine example of how messed up that system is. Most people on life support and such are being paid for by the government, or some insurance agency or somthing.. not by the people directly, and if it ever came down to the people having to pay directly, i gaurentee, a lot of people would die.

There would have to be some sort of rule, that you get as much as you put it. Meaning, as a child, you're parents pay a tax for you that covers your health. When you turn 18, or 21, and start earning your own money, its kept track of, so that when you retire, you get that amount of money back for your health. It would be difficult to keep track of and such, but it would save so much money that we waste on people who would be dead if we had not interveined.

I'm aware this probably has many wholes in it, and such.. as i am terrible at relaying my thoughts in a complicated manner, but i think i got the general point across.


You mean that? It was only a few months. And it sounds like the death panel plan that people were freaking about in the US health care debate! Honestly, sometimes I think we should let the sick die too. When I am in a foul mood.

In the movie version of Logan's Run they killed everone at age 30. It was 21 in the book. Looks like they are remaking that film. Due for release next year!
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Re: open discussion about personal conviction's

Postby Ecco » Fri Aug 28, 2009 5:53 am

I have a personal conviction that everyone has the right to a reasonably amount of resources in order to live, have shelter, procreate. Those who have more resources should give their resources to those that are struggling. Simply everyone should have a right to well being, even if others have to accommodate them. eg. A struggling artist should be funded by the government in order for him/her to continue his ideal occupation.

Although I am happy with the social security system in my country, people still fall through the cracks and I'm sure they can improve it.
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Re: open discussion about personal conviction's

Postby Parador » Fri Aug 28, 2009 6:54 pm

What about a stuggling poet? Then I could have got paid to write stuff like this all my life--

Little miss Muffet
Sat on a truffet
Eating stale moldy bread.
Then a killer grizzly bear
Came up behind her
And ripped off miss muffet's head.
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Re: open discussion about personal conviction's

Postby Snowball » Fri Aug 28, 2009 7:44 pm

Ecco wrote:I have a personal conviction that everyone has the right to a reasonably amount of resources in order to live, have shelter, procreate. Those who have more resources should give their resources to those that are struggling. Simply everyone should have a right to well being, even if others have to accommodate them. eg. A struggling artist should be funded by the government in order for him/her to continue his ideal occupation.


I agree that all sapient beings have a right to live and therefore society is obligated to meet the needs of the people it is comprised of. However, I do not leave it up to the charity of the rich or the benevolence of politicians, instead preferring to get rid of the bourgeois class and the state altogether, so that there will not be any poor or oppressed person in the first place.
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Re: open discussion about personal conviction's

Postby Eric_Lee » Wed Sep 02, 2009 3:59 am

Why should slackers, and useless people just inherit wealth and shelter just for being born? If your law was actually put forth, all it would do is cause everyone to slack. Humans are naturally lazy, the more we are provided for free, the lazier we become. Without the need to work for shelter, food, and basic survival, our entire species would just die off.

And.. why in the hell should the hard working, wealthy people who worked for their money have to support set lazy people? Where do you get that being fair from? I am aware some "rich" people in the world inherited their money from their parents, but their parents still had to work for it, somewhere along the line, someone worked for it. So why should they have to give it away?
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