Psychoactive Drugs: Should they be Legal?

The way I see it; No Victim, No Crime.

And dont tell me the user is the victim. A mans body is his to do with as he pleases.

If the government is given power to protect us from ourselves where do we draw the line? Sooner or later they will not allow us to vote for who we want because we might be making the wrong decision for ourselves.

I voted yes. I couldn't care less about psychoactive drugs, but they really should make the ones I want legal.

A system which could distinguish between hard and soft drugs would be awesome. Cannabis, all forms of Salvia, Shrooms, and Peyote should be legal, while Cocaine (and all of it derivatives), Amphetamines, and Opiates kept illegal.

Out of curiosity, why keep cocaine illegal but make shrooms legal? To be honest, I would rather drive side by side with someone who just did a couple lines as opposed to someone on shrooms.

Cocaine is addictive and has been proven to heave negative effects on the health. Mushrooms, on the other hand, are not addicting and cause no damage whatsoever to the body.

Drugs are one of the main reasons why I am like this today, so I voted no. I know the power of drugs very well and how easily it can take you where you really don't wanna go. And since most people are 'weak' and can't say no when you give them more, and the fact that people always overestimate their abilities, the recipe for disaster is waiting to be served around the corner. And don't come with the BS "I take drugs for years, I'm still fine" because that's what I also did and thought, until one day it hit me hard.

dbx wrote:Drugs are one of the main reasons why I am like this today, so I voted no. I know the power of drugs very well and how easily it can take you where you really don't wanna go. And since most people are 'weak' and can't say no when you give them more, and the fact that people always overestimate their abilities, the recipe for disaster is waiting to be served around the corner. And don't come with the BS "I take drugs for years, I'm still fine" because that's what I also did and thought, until one day it hit me hard.

This is not about whats healthy and whats not. McDonald's hamburgers can cause diabetes and heart problems but there not illegal. This is about our right to make choices regarding our own body. It is our body to do with as we please, and no God, government, or man should be allowed to decide what we do with it.
Look at all the hype surrounding abortion. Its basically the same thing. If the government has the right to keep us from ingesting chemicals then they should be able to keep a woman from giving up her child.

YarlSoutan wrote: This is not about whats healthy and whats not. McDonald's hamburgers can cause diabetes and heart problems but there not illegal. This is about our right to make choices regarding our own body. It is our body to do with as we please, and no God, government, or man should be allowed to decide what we do with it.
Look at all the hype surrounding abortion. Its basically the same thing. If the government has the right to keep us from ingesting chemicals then they should be able to keep a woman from giving up her child.

Fair enough, if you wanna screw up your brain easily then go ahead, I won't stop you. Just don't come back crying like a baby because the drugs has altered your brain and its pathways and now you're stuck in an endless depression with comorbid mental illnesses like paranoia, psychosis, etc. What I wrote is my own opinion based on personal experience and you won't be able to change that.

The point I made was not about whether McDonalds hamburgers can cause problems. Everything in large quantities can do that, even if it's been tested to be 100% "healthy". Tea in large quantities also has a negative effect on the body. My point was that if you legalize some of the hard drugs like coke and the like, over time more problems will be created than solved.

dbx wrote:
Fair enough, if you wanna screw up your brain easily then go ahead, I won't stop you. Just don't come back crying like a baby because the drugs has altered your brain and its pathways and now you're stuck in an endless depression with comorbid mental illnesses like paranoia, psychosis, etc. What I wrote is my own opinion based on personal experience and you won't be able to change that.

The point I made was not about whether McDonalds hamburgers can cause problems. Everything in large quantities can do that, even if it's been tested to be 100% "healthy". Tea in large quantities also has a negative effect on the body. My point was that if you legalize some of the hard drugs like coke and the like, over time more problems will be created than solved.

If you had read what I posted you would see that I was only in favor of legalizing soft drugs which have no such proven effects on the brain.
And I would screw my brain up if the government would let me. BUT the government makes it a legal issue instead of a social one. I should be allowed to go out and buy shrooms legally, where an FDA approved company could have insured quality and I won't have to worry about getting mixed up with the wrong people.

YarlSoutan wrote: If you had read what I posted you would see that I was only in favor of legalizing soft drugs which have no such proven effects on the brain.

Actually, that's not entirely true. It may not be "proven" officially but soft-drugs DOES have effects on the brain. Maybe I should take you to the loony bin in Kortenberg (near my city) where one of my ex best friends is locked up for a few years now due to severe marijuana-induced paranoia? Maybe you can tell him that grass has no effect on the brain and he got the paranoia from somewhere else? This guy, which I knew VERY well, used to do ONLY grass, hell he didn't even drink alcohol cuz he couldn't stand it. After years and years of smoking pot, he ended up batshit crazy and is locked up in the secure area of the hospital. I went to visit him when I was admitted to the same hospital myself for my own problems. I had to ask multiple times there just so they could let me go to the secure area to see him. When I saw him, I couldn't believe my eyes how much he had changed!

And I would screw my brain up if the government would let me. BUT the government makes it a legal issue instead of a social one. I should be allowed to go out and buy shrooms legally, where an FDA approved company could have insured quality and I won't have to worry about getting mixed up with the wrong people.

Just because one can do virtually anything to his body, it doesn't mean that society should directly allow it and is ethically justified. There are very good reasons why drugs are illegal in most countries