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The future is so random.

Postby Dan (Edmond) » Fri May 11, 2007 8:44 pm

There are trillions upon trillions (actually unknowably more) of paths taken every second in the universe.
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If you get a drink of water before going out to work, everything has changed. The evolution line is disrupted. In one way, you just delay yourself from the universe by a few seconds. In another way, everything has moved massively.
If you look at an apple and think... since this apple has a shade of red on it, does that mean that if you put it in shade, it's actual colour will change? It will stay red, yet turn into a different shade of it. Thinking of that also delays everything by a few seconds, then thinking that you have delayed yourself or the universe (perspective wise) delays you from the evolving universe. However, trillions of paths are changed upon every movement. Every time you stop and think, cars are in a different position than they would be, people have walked several meters farther, which changes your life. Why? Think of the billions of coincidences you have every day. You may not notice them, but a one-in-a-billion chance will happen every second, since the earth has billions upon billion of objects and thoughts to have a coincidence with.

If one of those coincidences are disrupted, they all change. Reading this, it is possible that you have changed the world.
If you had not read this, when you and your lover have sex, maybe a genius would have been born, or maybe the opposite would have happened, as now it won't. If your mom would not have given that last fake moan, you would not have been born.

The thing is, with trillions upon trillions of coincidences happening to you every step you take, how can you be so sure of something in the future?

Since you have read this, when you cross the street, each car will have a chain reaction, one person having one or more of five senses aware, which will continue to spread until final person/people don't have any of five senses triggered, consciously or not.

The chance of a car hitting you or anybody else when you walk across the street will highly differ, whether the chances go up or down (from car to car). But then, the reaction continues. Since one of the people have had their sense distracted, when they arrive home, since they arrived one second earlier or later, they will say hi to their lover 1 second later or earlier, changing billions of coincidences and pathways in his life, which will start back at my second paragraph.
One moment of wait, and you spread your coincidence change far faster than a germ.

It is funny how relativity in the form of coincidences can change so violently without us being aware of it.
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Postby FineFriend » Fri May 11, 2007 9:53 pm

Hi, Dan. Have you read much about The Butterfly Effect? The theory is attributed to Lorenz. There was a good movie made that dramatizes it in real life. :wink:
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Postby Dan (Edmond) » Fri May 11, 2007 10:22 pm

FineFriend wrote:Hi, Dan. Have you read much about The Butterfly Effect? The theory is attributed to Lorenz. There was a good movie made that dramatizes it in real life. :wink:


Yes I have heard of it. :)
I have not seen the movie though.
This is similar but far from identical to the butterfly effect.
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Postby FineFriend » Sat May 12, 2007 12:49 am

If we look at this in terms of human illnesses (physical and mental), think of the implications. Risk for illness starts with the human genome. Single nucleotide polymorphisms (SNPs) within vulnerability genes interacting with external biological, social, and psychological factors can give rise to a huge spectrum of conditions. As you say, the influence can start during the setting of the parents' sexual intimacy!
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Postby Dan (Edmond) » Sat May 12, 2007 2:52 am

FineFriend wrote:If we look at this in terms of human illnesses (physical and mental), think of the implications. Risk for illness starts with the human genome. Single nucleotide polymorphisms (SNPs) within vulnerability genes interacting with external biological, social, and psychological factors can give rise to a huge spectrum of conditions. As you say, the influence can start during the setting of the parents' sexual intimacy!


Well actually, it starts as far back as the first generation of 1-7,000,000,000 people.
Reread the post from the second paragraph or whatever, and start from there while looking at the intimacy as the present time. It's a huge loop that ends depending on where you restart it from. =P
Animals have an effect as well, and so do objects, as well as the earth.
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Postby FineFriend » Sat May 12, 2007 4:08 pm

So, do you think it starts with the very first human genome or the very first form of animal life?
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Postby Dan (Edmond) » Sat May 12, 2007 5:36 pm

FineFriend wrote:So, do you think it starts with the very first human genome or the very first form of animal life?


I can't know for sure, it should start with the first conscious matter that effects gravity.

If it does not smell, is not visible, does not move, does not effect gravity to the sensitivity of the human, the human will not have a coincidence change knowingly (consciously or not), but it will change coincidences that define what possible paths are taken.

To have no effect whatsoever on any coincidence at any time ever, it probably can't exist.

If the matter is not conscious, the effect will be like the the example of cellular automation by a mathematician named john horton conway.

Non-conscious matter should set up the coincidences, but not change ones that are already set up for the future, as they are already made tot rigger them.
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Postby FineFriend » Sat May 12, 2007 6:46 pm

It is interesting that you mentioned John Horton Conway. His Free Will Theorem is what has me thinking about individual choice for reincarnation. Conway poses, "If experimenters have free will, then so do elementary particles." It is fairly well accepted as truth that energy can neither be created nor destroyed, only transformed. If our energy has free will, can we not choose to return after death to another life form? If so, how random is that process?
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Postby Dan (Edmond) » Sat May 12, 2007 7:03 pm

FineFriend wrote:It is interesting that you mentioned John Horton Conway. His Free Will Theorem is what has me thinking about individual choice for reincarnation. Conway poses, "If experimenters have free will, then so do elementary particles." It is fairly well accepted as truth that energy can neither be created nor destroyed, only transformed. If our energy has free will, can we not choose to return after death to another life form? If so, how random is that process?


After death, parts may continue to live, but you will not be conscious. Think of it as before you were born, without being dull-minded as to picture it as a black screen on you.

We decay into the soil which animals eat, and therefore humans eat. In that way, reincarnation is true.
Genes can affect people, but consciousness changes with every thought. Consciousness is more of an emotion notifyer. After all, our emotions affect our thoughts, and our thoughts affect our emotions, so we reincarnate with every movement.
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Postby FineFriend » Sun May 13, 2007 3:31 pm

So, Dan (Edmond), do you think that God (or a Higher Power) exists outside the human mind or is a creation of the human brain :?:
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