Zyprexa for IED

I went 2 a free medical clinic at a local church today & was given samples of Zyprexa 2 help with my IED. I'm supposed 2 do 2.5 mg for 4 days, then 5 mg daily. Was wondering if anyone else has used this 2 help with IED & if it did/didn't work?

Hello,

I tried Zyprexa for my explosive outbursts.
It worked way too well : I slept something like 13 to 15 hours a day (besides, I gained 12 kilos I could easily lose when I stopped Zyprexa). I could not do anything during my day.

Years later, I have been diagnosed with... ADHD !
So, obviously, Zyprexa was absolutely not something to be given to me

Thing is that in my case, Ritalin addresses my outbursts much better than any sedative of the world.


Although I am not a professional, if I refer to the DSM IV, I notice that :

the episodic violence cannot be better accounted for by another mental or physical medical condition.

IED have symptoms which overlaps many conditions, either physicial either mental. IMO, IED is a last resort diagnosis, so a diagnosis we make after all the other conditions with similar symptoms are assessed.

So, if I were you, before even trying Zyprexa for your outbursts, I would push for a complete assessment : physical with hearing and visual test and a psychiatrist who searches first another diagnosis, like ADHD (even in adults, it exists), bipolar disorder, psychotic disorder, PTSD....
If you are diagnosed with IED whereas you have ADHD, Zyprexa won't help. BTDT, and I will never stress enough such a point.

Overall, I would be extra cautious with Zyprexa because it is not a referenced treatment for IED. As far as I know, antipsychotic are not absolutely referred as a treatment for IED (treatment of reference are tricyclic AD, SSRI AD, mood stabilizers and anxiolytic).
I am not a doctor, but Zyprexa for IED sounds very odd for me. If I were you, I would be very careful with it.

In fact, for me, it sounds such an odd prescription that I would start pushing for a deeper eval before trying Zyprexa to know if there is an underlying cause to your problem.
My gut feeling when I am reading your (very short) message is that the doctor seems to push for a medication without being absolutely sure about his diagnosis. It spots in my mind that the doctor looks like pushing for the wrong medication.

I only hope for you that my gut feeling is proven wrong.

I have been seen by 2 diff counselors before going 2 the health clinic at the church. The primary doc I had in 2011 when all this started, put me on Lexapro 2 start with, then when hubby changed jobs & we didn't have health insurance I was put on Celexa. I started going to a local healthcare provider that had a program 4 ppl w/out health insurance & low income around the 1st of this year. She increased the Celexa & said if that didn't help, she would see about adding a mood stabilizer. About 3 months later, my episodes/moods were no better, but when I contacted her about adding a mood stabilizer I was told "there is no meds 4 anger managment," then I was referred 2 a behavioral health facility. That is where I was 1st diagnosed as IED after ruling out Bipolar & Borderline Personality Disorder. This counselor also suggest anger management group, which I feel is a waste of time after the 2 sessions I've attended. I have an appt 10/3 to see a doctor at this facility. I've also been 2 another place where my sister in law, who's bipolar, went 2 when she was 1st having issues. The counselor I saw there agreed w/the 1st counselor about IED & I have an appt there on 9/25. I've been trying 4 about 2 months 2 get a healthcare professional 2 prescribe me some meds 2 help w/this. I know meds will not be the complete cure, but I've felt like committing myself 2 a psych ward at the hospital a few times bcuz of how I'm feeling. I have a 2 yr old daughter that I'm a stay at home mom with. I'm trying 2 get myself better so I can be the best mom she can have.

Hello,
Did you explore the possibility of ADHD ? Have you explored also the possibility of ASD ?
Even adults can have ADHD.

Have a look at the ADHD forum and the ASD forum. You have adults with undiagnosed ASD when they were children.

I understand that you want to get better. Promise me, I was on your shoes before I've been diagnosed with ADHD.
The first med I was given was Zyprexa. Needless to say, it was a nightmare and it was the wrong medicine to give me.
The only medicine who stabilizes me is a stimulant. The underlying cause of my outbursts are linked to ADHD.
Your outbursts can have another underlying cause than ADHD.
But exploring bipolar disorder and borderline personality disorder is not enough before concluding that you have IED.

But if you want to get better, you have to be sure you deal with IED and not something else. So, from what you've wrote, there are other things to rule out before we can conclude for a diagnosis of IED.
Sensory processing issues can be a trigger for outbursts (sensitivity to noise....).

Of course, anger management classes are a complete waste of time if you are not appropriately treated.
A good medicine changes your life for the better. On the other hand, nothing is worse than the wrong medicine : it can even kill you or make you react dangerously.

The psychiatrist you saw sounds an idiot ! Of course, no medicine will erase your anger (like if she needed to tell it !) ! But if you appropriately treat yourself, believe me, your outbursts will be much more manageable.
Before that, anger management classes are a complete waste of time and energy.

It is time to make a deeper eval before you get medication. Otherwise, you are very likely to be given the wrong medicine and have to pay the consequences for it.

When I go for my appt on 9/25 I'm gonna talk to that person about getting other tests and/or labwork done. My mother in law asked if they'd done labwork or any brain testing. I definitely wanna get the right diagnosis so I can get the right medication.