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Postby HesDeltanCaptain » Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:41 am

Those far wiser than I have lived and died, and are still with us, rather than paraphrase them I'll quote them precisely. When we feel down or like we're losing, or have lost hope, simply read what's been written on hope for millenia. If that doesn't inspire you, well, there's always ice cream. :)

"“There is neither happiness nor misery in the world; there is only the comparison of one state with another, nothing more. He who has felt the deepest grief is best able to experience supreme happiness. We must of felt what it is to die, Morrel, that we may appreciate the enjoyments of life.
" Live, then, and be happy, beloved children of my heart, and never forget, that until the day God will deign to reveal the future to man, all human wisdom is contained in these two words, 'Wait and Hope.”
― Alexandre Dumas"

"“If you're reading this...
Congratulations, you're alive.
If that's not something to smile about,
then I don't know what is.”
― Chad Sugg, Monsters Under Your Head "

"“The things you do for yourself are gone when you are gone, but the things you do for others remain as your legacy.”
― Kalu Ndukwe Kalu"

"“Only in the darkness can you see the stars.”
― Dr. Martin Luther King Jr."

"“I don't think of all the misery, but of the beauty that still remains.”
― Anne Frank, The Diary of a Young Girl "

"“A baby is God's opinion that the world should go on.”
― Carl Sandburg"

"“There is a crack in everything.
That's how the light gets in.”
― Leonard Cohen, Selected Poems, 1956-1968 "

"“Do not spoil what you have by desiring what you have not; remember that what you now have was once among the things you only hoped for.”
― Epicurus"

"“I am fundamentally an optimist. Whether that comes from nature or nurture, I cannot say. Part of being optimistic is keeping one's head pointed toward the sun, one's feet moving forward. There were many dark moments when my faith in humanity was sorely tested, but I would not and could not give myself up to despair. That way lays defeat and death.”
― Nelson Mandela, Long Walk to Freedom: Autobiography of Nelson Mandela "

"“All of sudden, this shooting star went by, and all I could think was that they were listening to us somehow. ”
― Nicholas Sparks"
"I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I pretended to be." - Me.
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Re: On Hope

Postby loise » Thu Jun 13, 2013 8:18 am

thanks!! they are beautiful,
i have seen that you have a social attitude, what i mean, is that despite your problems..whatever these may be, you have eyes and ears for others, and good advice, humane!!
i try to do the same, but not as consistent neither as often as you, sometimes the water is op to my neck. Anyway, thanks!! for the positive vibes!
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Re: On Hope

Postby HesDeltanCaptain » Fri Jun 14, 2013 10:12 pm

I've always been the counsellor. Integral part of my personality, if not helping others we're wasting our lives. So many busy themselves with what amounts to distractions and trivium, whereas I'm studying something day-in day-out. If saying I'm a modern day philosopher didn't sound pretentious (heh)...:) But a good line from a movie about the man who became known as Buddha ("Siddhartha" think it was) had him looking for a job and the prospective employer asked what he could to which he answered: "I can think think. I can fast. I can pray." or something along those lines. Too often in modern times, the most useful talents are demeaned as worthless in favor of degrees which are really just pieces of paper not promising much of anything. I never saw a need for a degree since they're only needed if you're then going o go beg someone for a job, and the degree is a must-have. I'd rather be able to think, pray, and fast. Not prove I could memorize trivia then regurgitate it on a test.

My problem is simply not belonging to this time. :)
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Re: On Hope

Postby loise » Tue Jun 18, 2013 6:57 am

HesDeltanCaptain wrote:I've always been the counsellor. Integral part of my personality, if not helping others we're wasting our lives.
that is so nice!! and his way of understanding life has also helped me to get thru difficult times....there are always others who are having it a worst time than i am...so there is not too much time for self-pity.

So many busy themselves with what amounts to distractions and trivium, whereas I'm studying something day-in day-out. If saying I'm a modern day philosopher didn't sound pretentious (heh)...:)

when i read what you say, i see that you know, or seem to know what you are talking about...but not only a philosopher, you seem not to be a judgemental, and yes a very humane person...
i loved all my life to learn!!, but at some point reading was not more an option, that is why i came to the forum, my mind was not working well, i could not read anymore. but i read short things here and there.....amazing that you have such capacity to learn... but how have you survived all these years...have you considered asperger syndrome? because despite your humane side, and your empathy, this way of thinking, you know?....i have discovered now in my adult life that there is autism in my family....and often i have related tot them to some extent...


But a good line from a movie about the man who became known as Buddha ("Siddhartha" think it was) had him looking for a job and the prospective employer asked what he could to which he answered: "I can think think. I can fast. I can pray." or something along those lines. Too often in modern times, the most useful talents are demeaned as worthless in favor of degrees which are really just pieces of paper not promising much of anything. I never saw a need for a degree since they're only needed if you're then going o go beg someone for a job, and the degree is a must-have. I'd rather be able to think, pray, and fast. Not prove I could memorize trivia then regurgitate it on a test.

i loved studying, i did go to the university, but it was a mess, i moved from one degree to the next...i spent seven years at school, actually i wanted to stay there...i loved college life...anyway....despite the degree, i would never worked in that area...but everything i learned have i been able to put into practice...but i agreen with you....the sciences that would bring us to think, analize, to choose for a more ethical way of life..seem to be gone...no wonder we have such a mess of a world in hands. i think and i pray...no fast anymore...but at sometime used to.

My problem is simply not belonging to this time. :)
i know exactly what you mean....i walk against the current of water, and sometimes it is exhausting.... but i do it in a non confronting way, i can not deal with confrontation.....i will be reading you :D
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Re: On Hope

Postby Distant Angel » Sat Aug 24, 2013 1:54 pm

Excellent post! This made me feel great!
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Re: On Hope

Postby HesDeltanCaptain » Sat Oct 05, 2013 6:19 pm

Hope For a Rainy Day

It's only gray and gloomy from below the cloud layer. I'm confident that just above it it's blue and sunny. Knowing this always helps. Besides, if it were clear and sunny all the time, we wouldn't appreciate it as much. To experience joy, we must have something to compare it against like sadness. Every so often I get in a funk and feel down. Manstruating I think of it as :) But no matter how into it I let myself fall I remember I don't always feel like this, and perhaps it's only my subconscious giving me the comparison and contrast I need to understand the joy I feel the rest of the time.
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Re: On Hope

Postby MedGoRound » Thu Oct 10, 2013 8:59 am

Good stuff. Thanks for the share.
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Re: On Hope

Postby Angelofmercy » Tue Aug 19, 2014 8:25 am

And then there's a quote of one of my elderly patients...."Any day above ground is a good day!" Amen to that! :)
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It's the Dance of Life that makes us whole. When you get the chance.....Dance
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Re: On Hope

Postby Cledwyn Bulbs » Thu Jun 18, 2015 12:37 pm

Hope is little more than the face the self-preservation instinct exhibits to he whom it dupes in order to keep the individual toiling in an existence that oppresses him from its commencement to its conclusion. In all of us there abides a torment and dissatisfaction only hope of a better future offers us temporary respite from; yet the quantities of suffering lost in the contemplation thereof reality always recompenses us for, and with interest.

Or looked at another way, every pleasure hope gives us incurs a debt that can only be repaid in suffering.

Yet, like all of the pleasures Nature gives us, it is valued at an extortionate price in suffering. The modest amount of pleasure Life rewards us with for services rendered thereto, that is, for the suffering and toil expended in the maintenance thereof, hardly represents a fair quid pro quo, but a very bad bargain, one that would make a more rational, less Polyannaish creature, than man, indignant.

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Re: On Hope

Postby bbrenner » Sun Aug 02, 2015 3:38 pm

We find that “HOPE” is a word that sounds as though it promotes success when it really builds doubt. Hope is actually a wish for something I doesn’t exist; it creates uncertainty. On the other hand words like trust, Faith, and Belief, instill confidence.

Let’s say you have a friend that is ill and you wanted to console them. In your mind say, “I hope you get better soon,” then follow this, again in your mind, with, “but I know you won’t”. Notice that when you put the two together they don’t convey the message you want your friend to hear. However the two phrases do sound as though they’re meant for each other.

Now, again in your mind say, “I believe you will be better soon,” Follow it with,” but I know you won’t”. The two phrases don’t work together so there is no room for your friend to misconstrue what you mean.

Always remember to say what you mean in a way that leaves no room for doubt or misunderstanding.
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