Are HPD's sadistic?

Tempestuous

Tempestuous histrionic personality subtype includes negativistic or passive-aggressive features. The tempestuous histrionic is impulsive, with out of control behaviors. Tempestuous histrionics are notorious for their unstable behavior and actions, for example they may be sulking one minute and violent the next. The tempestuous personality is often thought of as an emotional, confused, abrupt and moody individual often thriving on the creation of turmoil.

But she's sadistic in a very passive-aggressive sort of way.For example, she loves to stay at other people's houses, and then to either cause a scene there, screaming, crying, etc or she likes to dictate what other people can and can't do in their own houses. For example, she'll sleep till the afternoon in someone's house, and she'll start complaining and throwing a tantrum if people create noise in their own house, or if they open up the blinds, etc. She says she requires complete silence and darkness to sleep, but she doesn't want to sleep in her own house, and she likes to dictate these things in other people's houses. And she has no shame in doing so. She'll sometimes even lock herself in one of the rooms, so you can't come in, and if she sees that you're getting upset over it, then she just gloats, and refuses to leave even more. She'll even smile, and you can see that she's just absolutely enjoying the emotional turmoil she causes in other people

oksayhi212 wrote:Hi Orion,

Based on the original poster's experience, it sounds more like...she'll even smile, and you can see that she's just absolutely enjoying the emotional turmoil she causes in other people

lodi dodi wrote:If childishness encompasses bratism, I don't see why that particularity would cause it to fall into a different category.
It's along the same line of hpd "testings."

oksayhi212 wrote:Orion,

So I take it,based on your vague answer, you are not a big fan of Million's subtypes to explain overlaps.

thisislabor wrote:It is the ruling of Judge Labor that:

"yes yes yes, clearly as can be seen by the supposedly non-disordered people who post on this forum... it has been definatively proven that sadism is a trait of HPD despite what the DSM IV says.

yep yep yep... let it forever be here held forth on psychforums.com that HPD's are sadistic."

oh man how long is this thread going to go on for?
- Labor.

lodi dodi wrote:I would peg her with npd but she only cares about garnering attention/adoration in specific "flavor" rather than being above others.
Her princess schtick isn't about being better than others, it's about how she wants to be treated and regarded as--adored, nurtured, and lavished.
It could be that her inclination for power is narcissistic, but I see it more as her childhood conditioning thus her purposely breaking/enforcing rules as means of testing to retain unconditional self worth... and such form of attention.
N's need for power has to do with dominating to feel worth and it's not testy or rehashed nor excessively enjoyed unless they hate the person... it's about status quo for them, a necessity, not indulged but felt.

-- Tue May 22, 2012 2:47 pm --

Labor are you taking things personally here?
Or you're just inclined to suspect nons?

orion8591 wrote:

thisislabor wrote:It is the ruling of Judge Labor that:

"yes yes yes, clearly as can be seen by the supposedly non-disordered people who post on this forum... it has been definatively proven that sadism is a trait of HPD despite what the DSM IV says.

yep yep yep... let it forever be here held forth on psychforums.com that HPD's are sadistic."

oh man how long is this thread going to go on for?
- Labor.

Lol using the DSM to understand a probable HPD's behavior is like using an map of the continental United States to navigate through Los Angeles...sooner or later you need a finer, more detailed publication, hence Millon et al.
Unless of course you're trying to obscure such knowledge...?