being selfish and being self-interested.
being non-selfish and just staying out of other people's drama.
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Are non's able to distinguish between...
by thisislabor » Mon Mar 26, 2012 11:45 pm
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Re: Are non's able to distinguish between...
by lodi dodi » Tue Mar 27, 2012 2:24 am
Maybe not. I don't think they're self interested to a point where it's imperative like us?
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Re: Are non's able to distinguish between...
by xdude » Tue Mar 27, 2012 8:12 pm
My answer is probably a bit obtuse.
I'm fine with people being self-interested. We all have lives, needs, and wants, and that's fine with me. Everyone has a right to try and enjoy their life.
Selfish means to me putting one's interest over others to such a degree that it causes others harm/hurt. The thing about that is, over the long run it often ends up being short-sighted, and not in ones self-interest to be selfish. Others reasonable don't like/trust selfish people (by definition, they are harmed/hurt by them) so oust them from their lives. Selfishness is a short-term gain at a long-term cost way that some deal with the world.
All that written, it is a big world and so a selfish person can often move on and find others who will give them the benefit of doubt and tolerate the selfishness for a time, particularly if they have something to offer that others want (e.g., money, sexual attractiveness, power, a job offering, etc). So there we go again, back to self-interest. People will sometimes tolerate selfishness in others out of their own self-interests.
I'm fine with people being self-interested. We all have lives, needs, and wants, and that's fine with me. Everyone has a right to try and enjoy their life.
Selfish means to me putting one's interest over others to such a degree that it causes others harm/hurt. The thing about that is, over the long run it often ends up being short-sighted, and not in ones self-interest to be selfish. Others reasonable don't like/trust selfish people (by definition, they are harmed/hurt by them) so oust them from their lives. Selfishness is a short-term gain at a long-term cost way that some deal with the world.
All that written, it is a big world and so a selfish person can often move on and find others who will give them the benefit of doubt and tolerate the selfishness for a time, particularly if they have something to offer that others want (e.g., money, sexual attractiveness, power, a job offering, etc). So there we go again, back to self-interest. People will sometimes tolerate selfishness in others out of their own self-interests.
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Re: Are non's able to distinguish between...
by lodi dodi » Wed Mar 28, 2012 4:33 am
I'm ok with selfishness in others as long as they don't screw me over...
Then I guess I'd try to tolerate it more if they cross some line and wait to see if there's anything redeeming about them.
But yea I try not to let first impressions paint people but if they are kind of toxic/negative w/e then yea the impression might stick... idk...
Then I guess I'd try to tolerate it more if they cross some line and wait to see if there's anything redeeming about them.
But yea I try not to let first impressions paint people but if they are kind of toxic/negative w/e then yea the impression might stick... idk...
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Re: Are non's able to distinguish between...
by NEX » Wed Mar 28, 2012 5:18 am
Re: Are non's able to distinguish between...
Postby xdude » Tue Mar 27, 2012 12:12 pm
People will sometimes tolerate selfishness in others out of their own self-interests.
That's profound.
The moral objective of selfishness, in essence, Is that humans exists for their own sake, that the pursuit of our own happiness is his highest moral purpose, that we must not sacrifice our self to others, nor sacrifice others to our self.
That would be a moral way to live.
I am not saying I am Moral
however I'm not pitch black Immoral.I'm just me.
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Re: Are non's able to distinguish between...
by lodi dodi » Wed Mar 28, 2012 5:28 am
NEX wrote:The moral objective of selfishness, in essence, Is that humans exists for their own sake, that the pursuit of our own happiness is his highest moral purpose, that we must not sacrifice our self to others, nor sacrifice others to our self.
That would be a moral way to live.
I am not saying I am Moral
I'm just me.
Unless you're from asia or asian... lol
Yours sounds definitely more western civilization orientation... excluding religion.
Re: Are non's able to distinguish between...Postby xdude » Tue Mar 27, 2012 12:12 pm
People will sometimes tolerate selfishness in others out of their own self-interests.
That's profound.
Maybe... I guess for those with certain PDs, they just love them?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1VnZDQSNao
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Re: Are non's able to distinguish between...
by NEX » Wed Mar 28, 2012 5:52 am
Postby anonymous1 » Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:28 pm
NEX wrote:The moral objective of selfishness, in essence, Is that humans exists for their own sake, that the pursuit of our own happiness is his highest moral purpose, that we must not sacrifice our self to others, nor sacrifice others to our self.
That would be a moral way to live.
I am not saying I am Moral
I'm just me.
Unless you're from asia or asian... lol
Yours sounds definitely more western civilization orientation... excluding religion.
No Yin Yang here, guilty as charged.
Postby anonymous1 » Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:28 pm
Re: Are non's able to distinguish between...
Postby xdude » Tue Mar 27, 2012 12:12 pm
People will sometimes tolerate selfishness in others out of their own self-interests.
That's profound.
Maybe... I guess for those with certain PDs, they just love them?
You are two for two.
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Re: Are non's able to distinguish between...
by lodi dodi » Wed Mar 28, 2012 5:59 am
You are two for two.
...Oh yay! <3<3
Maybe as I work on my self awareness more, I will be better at this boundaries strat.
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Re: Are non's able to distinguish between...
by NEX » Wed Mar 28, 2012 7:24 am
anonymous1 wrote:You are two for two.
...Oh yay! <3<3
Maybe as I work on my self awareness more, I will be better at this boundaries strat.
We'll See... <----- ( neutral statement
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Re: Are non's able to distinguish between...
by lodi dodi » Wed Mar 28, 2012 7:28 am
O ya definitely, you're invited!
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