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Re: Questions for HPDs from Nons (Could be Triggering)

Postby xdude » Tue Mar 17, 2015 3:00 pm

Hi MissAllbright,

Longer term you will hopefully feel better again, and come to a sense of peace with this relationship.

For whatever it's worth, I think people with HPD are mostly reacting to their damaged self-esteem. It's not necessarily done to cause others any harm (though it does hurt), but because they fundamentally don't feel good about themselves, so attention/validation from others provides a temporary bit of relief.

On the flip side I learned my own sense of self-esteem was on shakier ground then I believed, so I suppose as a result of that, and a lot of introspection, my self-esteem has overall improved. Not because I think of myself as having great self-esteem, but because I'm more aware of how easily toppled my sense of self is. I also have learned a few other things as well.

One big difference though is you wrote about how attractive he is. The woman I met has made some changes to her personality, and still wants a relationship, so I didn't ever experience complete devaluation. She is about my age though, and while attractive in my eyes, it wasn't entirely about that because she isn't as young as she once was. He might change, or at least outgrow some of the symptoms, but if attention comes easily due to his appearance, realistically he is probably not at a point where he is ready to start the introspective process. Sorry :(

Please feel free to write as much as you need. I know how badly it hurts to love someone, and to be so easily devalued for new attention.
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Re: Questions for HPDs from Nons (Could be Triggering)

Postby TR_Jessie » Mon Jun 08, 2015 8:09 am

HollyBolly wrote:A few questions as I'm trying to understand HPD better...

1) Do your relationships usually overlap, i.e. cheat on one with the other then start relationship with the other?
2) Do you NEED to be in a relationship to feel 'whole'?
3) Do you normally contact your ex's after a breakup? If so, why and when?
4) Are you usually paranoid, i.e. think you're being stalked, etc?
5) Do you make up things to get attention/sympathy, even from friends?
6) Do you just take whomever comes your way to avoid being alone, i.e. someone you know can offer you nothing much?
7) Do you ever feel hollow or empty from getting attention, i.e. from people you are not even attracted to?
8 ) How often do you make up lies about your ex's to friends or family so that it is 'not your fault, during AND after B/U'?

Thank you in advance.


1. I've been in two relationships (one for 6 1/2 years and the other for almost 6 years so far) and yes for the first year and a half of the second relationship, I dated both of them at the same time. They didn't want to share me but they were "kind of O.K. with it." I'm in an open marriage, so I still "overlap" occasionally, just not with my ex.
2. Absolutely. Otherwise I get suicidal.
3. No, I don't even contact friends after we have a big falling out. Bridge burned.
4. Not paranoid in the least bit.
5. Constantly, but I just fudge the details a little bit. I don't tell tall tales.
6. Anyone who can take things slow; I'm demisexual.
7. Hollow from getting attention? Well, I don't like attention regarding my work when I feel like I did little to deserve it and when I have no idea what my next step is going to be. Attention towards my personality, looks, or outfit always feels good.
8. I don't lie about people I've gone on dates with; but I mostly focus on talking about the negative aspects instead of the positive ones, so in that way I glorify myself.
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Re: Questions for HPDs from Nons (Could be Triggering)

Postby TR_Jessie » Tue Jun 09, 2015 10:31 pm

ltcomdata wrote:My question is, are HPDers capable of love in the sense that non-Cluster B PDers are? I understand that this is a difficult question to answer, so perhaps it should be rephrased as : Do non-PDers descriptions of romantic love resonate with you; or does it feel largely alien?

If the answer is yes, are there trends in terms of personality types, physical characteristics, behavioural patterns or any other features of the type of person that would gain trust, affection, selflessness, and loyalty from an HPDer.

Thank you.


- Yes, I would fit right into a Nicholas Sparks novel.

- Someone with the same viewpoints on most things (ex. the same political views) and many of the same interests. Someone who doesn't mind "magical thinking" (religious, spiritual, interested in the paranormal, or superstitious), which is common among people with personality disorders. Someone who is very positive, supportive, and encouraging and never tires of giving compliments. Many of us are childish and like a partner who is like a parental figure.

- A couple of people on here said they have trust issues in relationships, but I've never had that problem. The other side of the coin is many of us can be "too trusting."

- Someone on here said to "keep your mask on at all times." Don't do it. If it's love, the other person would never ever ask you to do that because they'd love you for you. Plus, I think that would be super annoying. I want to know exactly how everyone feels about me; I hate it when people cloak themselves in mystery.
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Re: Questions for HPDs from Nons (Could be Triggering)

Postby TR_Jessie » Tue Jun 09, 2015 10:52 pm

somniloquy wrote:1. What do you look for in platonic female friends?
2. Do you find you treat them differently than your romantic relationships? How so?

Thanks so much in advance for your feedback.


1. Someone who watches a lot of the same T.V. shows, listens to a lot of the same music, and has many of the same hobbies and interests. In short, someone who is fun to hang out with and with whom we can talk about topics that excite us. I don't feel compelled to talk about myself when I can talk about other things I love instead.
2. Friendships are less important than relationships. With best friends, I can force myself to apologize and admit guilt even though I don't usually feel like things are my fault, I can do things for them that I don't want to do (like watch Star Wars movie or do karaoke to 80s songs), I can pretend that I feel bad for them, I can force myself to not message them when they need some space, and I can suppress the urge to talk them into spending more time with me than their boyfriend/girlfriend. However, I can actually put my husband before myself and I really do care about him. As much as I hate doing this, I cancel plans with friends to hang out with my husband when he really wants me to. Sometimes it's important for him that I do because it makes him feel wanted. I don't always do it because that would be unhealthy and because I don't like canceling plans. But I would rather give up all my friends and be with my husband than give him up for anything.
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Re: Questions for HPDs from Nons (Could be Triggering)

Postby Retsilloh » Tue Jun 07, 2016 12:49 am

Zen4591 wrote:To Holly Bolly: Don't feel bad-- you're not alone, all HPD's pull this nonsense and they always look like fools to friends and family (eventually). You'll be fine, trust me!

Below are answers from my experience--

by HollyBolly » Wed Mar 21, 2012 1:29 am

A few questions as I'm trying to understand HPD better...

1) Do your relationships usually overlap, i.e. cheat on one with the other then start relationship with the other? YES MY HPD DID THIS TO ME WITH A "FRIEND" OF MINE IN COLLEGE. SHE SLEPT WITH HIM IN THE SAME APARTMENT BUILDING THAT I LIVED IN, WHILE WE WERE GOING OUT.

2) Do you NEED to be in a relationship to feel 'whole'?
SHE ALWAYS DID.
3) Do you normally contact your ex's after a breakup? If so, why and when?
SHE DID WHEN SHE GOT DUMPED. I HUNG UP ON HER-- AND SHE SPIRALED INTO A DEPRESSION.
4) Are you usually paranoid, i.e. think you're being stalked, etc?
SHE ACCUSED ME OF THIS-
5) Do you make up things to get attention/sympathy, even from friends?
SHE PURPOSEFULLY BROKE HER LEG AND GOT SURGERY FOR ATTENTION. GOT DISABILITY FROM WORK, QUIT HER JOB, WENT TO COOKING SCHOOL-- DROPPED OUT, NOW LIVING AT HOME.


6) Do you just take whomever comes your way to avoid being alone, i.e. someone you know can offer you nothing much?
SHE DID-- DATED A SHORT UGLY LOOSER, POTHEAD, NO CAREER, NO GIRL WOULD TOUCH THAT KID IN A MILLION YEARS.

7) Do you ever feel hollow or empty from getting attention, i.e. from people you are not even attracted to? PROBABLY SHE DID.

How often do you make up lies about your ex's to friends or family so that it is 'not your fault, during AND after B/U'?
SHE ACCUSED ME OF ABUSING HER-- AND TOLD OTHERS THAT'S WHY SHE BRO*E UP WITH ME. NO ONE BELIEVED HER, AND IT MADE HER LOOK LIKE A FOOL. FAST FORWARD 5 YEARS, SHE'S THE BURN OUT, I'M THE ONE WITH A CAREER, AT A GOOD COMPANY, ENGAGED, AND HAVE ALL MY COLLEGE FRIENDSHIPS IN TACT.

Thank you in advance.
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For some reason I just burst into genuine laughter after reading this. Honestly I find this post hysterical (not in an offensive way to the poster). Not sure why, this is a very rare occurrence for me.

*Edit*

I might have just enjoyed hearing that the girl ended up in such a bad situation in life while being amused at the way the post was written. Possibly.
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Re: Questions for HPDs from Nons (Could be Triggering)

Postby Chainsaw » Thu Jul 07, 2016 9:24 pm

This really gave me some insight. Thanks
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Re: Questions for HPDs from Nons (Could be Triggering)

Postby JackTheNewOne » Mon Sep 26, 2016 7:46 pm

I just get to know about HPD and it's quite interesting how these people are the oposite of Schizoid PD, which is my diagnosis.
Histrionics are very energic and outgoing, while schizoids have a very low "energy" and prefer not being noticed or being the center of attentions.

It's a very interesting contrast.

Anyway, before reading some threads here I would just see HPD as "bad people", because their behaviors are so different than mine that it's like dealing with an alien race, and we usually take what is different as bad. But now I can have a bit more of understanding about those people.
It may be helpful to me if I get to interact with someone with these characteristics.
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Re: Questions for HPDs from Nons (Could be Triggering)

Postby Fr4nz83 » Thu Sep 29, 2016 6:33 pm

JackTheNewOne wrote:I just get to know about HPD and it's quite interesting how these people are the oposite of Schizoid PD, which is my diagnosis.
Histrionics are very energic and outgoing, while schizoids have a very low "energy" and prefer not being noticed or being the center of attentions.

It's a very interesting contrast.

Anyway, before reading some threads here I would just see HPD as "bad people", because their behaviors are so different than mine that it's like dealing with an alien race, and we usually take what is different as bad. But now I can have a bit more of understanding about those people.
It may be helpful to me if I get to interact with someone with these characteristics.


Actually -- and in a very ironic way -- I think that HPDs can "teach" to schizoids social skills very effectively. Indeed, before my BPD/HPD ex I was, perhaps, a little bit introverted and not so strong in social skills.

However, after the HPD experience I can say that nowadays I'm very good in social skills -- especially
for what relates to dating! :lol:
HDPs are really "gurus" -- in their very own way -- when it comes to social skills...
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Re: Questions for HPDs from Nons (Could be Triggering)

Postby len71 » Sun Oct 09, 2016 2:29 pm

Sorry, to post a question that may be triggering, but I need to ask.. splitting from Black to white, is it, snap of the fingers type thing or does it slowly come over time. Is it different for all HPD Sufferers? Thanks in advance
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Re: Questions for HPDs from Nons (Could be Triggering)

Postby Fr4nz83 » Tue Oct 11, 2016 12:39 pm

len71 wrote:Sorry, to post a question that may be triggering, but I need to ask.. splitting from Black to white, is it, snap of the fingers type thing or does it slowly come over time. Is it different for all HPD Sufferers? Thanks in advance


I'm a non that's writing since quite some time on these boards...I'll give my opinion/experience.

I think that the splitting white thing doesn't happen overnight, especially if the splitting black happened as a consequence of a serious breakup...but I'm convinced that in almost all cases it happens, at some point.
Beware that it is very possible that, even if your ex split you white again - unknowingly to you - you'll never hear back from her: indeed, in many cases pride, shame (for some bad actions), or a continuous stream of new narcissistic supply prevent them to introspect with respect to their past relationships and faults.

Also, the splitting white happens especially if the HPD sufferer is going to breakup with the current partner, or if her current life is not so satisfactory.

Anyway, point is, even if you're split white again and she gets back in touch with you, you won't be anymore the knight in shining armour you were in the beginning, so at some point you'll be split black again.

The moral of the story is...better focus on yourself and on your well-being.
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