Sexist or sex-segregated diagnosis?

by **justinl** » Fri Aug 06, 2010 3:30 pm

Principled Man wrote:Gender differences should be celebrated and acknowledged.

That sounds like something people do in bed. In day-to-day life, people need to acknowledge and build on a common ground of understanding so that they can discuss their individual differences intelligently.

Well, Yumi...that in my opinion is what baddest is. You did say your were the baddest right. Well, that's the description of the baddest type. See above. Sounds like my ex!

Look, I do apprecaite the time you have taken to correspond with me. The main motive on my part was to see what buttons to push and how to chat with someone that possibly has the disorder. My ex, will be calling me again. I want to end all contact. I just don't want to upset her and learnng from you how not to do that. In other words I was testing your buttons. I really don't want to do that to her as she has threatened me and my kids in the past. I have learned a great deal from you in our discussions.

So thanks. I assume you cringing, since you know you have helped someone! lol Disgusting I bet! lol

by **yumi** » Fri Aug 06, 2010 4:20 pm

okherewego wrote:Well, Yumi...that in my opinion is what baddest is. You did say your were the baddest right. Well, that's the description of the baddest type. See above. Sounds like my ex!

You totally missed the whole point. Shows just how old you are.

Look, I do apprecaite the time you have taken to correspond with me. The main motive on my part was to see what buttons to push and how to chat with someone that possibly has the disorder. My ex, will be calling me again. I want to end all contact. I just don't want to upset her and learnng from you how not to do that. In other words I was testing your buttons. I really don't want to do that to her as she has threatened me and my kids in the past. I have learned a great deal from you in our discussions.

Yeah, yeah.. You know and I know that's #######4.

So thanks. I assume you cringing, since you know you have helped someone! lol Disgusting I bet! lol

I know something a lot more disgusting, or should I say someone? :wink:

by **okherewego** » Fri Aug 06, 2010 4:24 pm

No, I didn't miss the point. I realize your proud of those traits. Good for you, you are a wonderful person.

Well, really have to run....all the best and again thanks..whether you understand or not! lol

by **justinl** » Sat Aug 07, 2010 5:28 am

Principled Man wrote:This is a problem, for me with trying to make psychology a hard science like physics (the king of all sciences). Psychology is a social science, so necessarily diverse, chaotic, unpredictable, and SUBJECTIVE. The language we use to talk about it should reflect that.

I see. You guys want SUBJECTIVE labels so that you can b**** about your exes and demonize them like the female monsters of Greek mythology, but you don't make any effort to understand these personality disorders because the science is just too hard, and furthermore, thinking in gender-neutral terms would make you uncomfortable because you would see some of the same traits in yourselves that you vilify in your significant others. That stand is not so principled, I'm afraid. And I'm glad you had to run off, okherewego. I found it quite disingenuous of you to hijack this thread for the sole purpose of finding somebody to stand in for your ex to take your abuse. Now I have a better feel for the kind of people posting on this forum. Thank you. I have to run off, too, now.

by **upalse** » Sat Aug 07, 2010 7:43 am

tl;dr

Sheesh, cut the feminism crap.

.. the gender bias goes like: men are as much as narcs as women are histrionic.

It's just each gender using the tools at hand. To accomplish the same.

A small overlap across the worlds is just an exception proving the analogy (as somebody already explained, disingenous hpd women are as masculine as hpd men are feminine).

This is all oversimplified, however you can't deny certain gender bias for each of the PD even in rigorous literature, so it's just natural that amateur folks are having assumptions ("my" hpd == woman, ex narc == man)

by **Principled Man** » Sat Aug 07, 2010 9:45 am

justinl wrote: Now I have a better feel for the kind of people posting on this forum. Thank you. I have to run off, too, now.

I'm glad you found what you are searching for. Goodbye.

by **okherewego** » Sat Aug 07, 2010 12:21 pm

Hey, I do apoligize for going off track. Got a little carried away in my dealings with Yumi! lol

Anyway, we all carry personality traits of these disorders. I agree.Whether male or female. However, it is when they become extreme it becomes a disorder.We "non" reconginize when our behavior at times is inappropiate and stop. We also, apologize. So your point is well taken.

Maybe if we did carry more of these traits, many would have not stayed in thier relationships with these people so long and stood up for themselves earlier and not cared so much. It is all part of the learning process.

Anyway, aplologize for going off track on your thread. Up to you if you want to continue it or not.

OK

by **justinl** » Sat Aug 07, 2010 1:03 pm

upalse wrote:tl;dr

Sheesh, cut the feminism crap.

I guess I'm back. Since this was tl;dr for you, I guess you got the impression of "feminist crap" from the thread title and my last comment. If you had read the whole thread, you'd see that the crap cuts both ways.

upalse wrote:.. the gender bias goes like: men are as much as narcs as women are histrionic.

It's just each gender using the tools at hand. To accomplish the same.

A small overlap across the worlds is just an exception proving the analogy (as somebody already explained, disingenous hpd women are as masculine as hpd men are feminine).

This is all oversimplified, however you can't deny certain gender bias for each of the PD even in rigorous literature, so it's just natural that amateur folks are having assumptions ("my" hpd == woman, ex narc == man)

I think it's actually feminist crap when you call "disingenous hpd women" masculine, because this suggests that somehow dishonesty is more naturally a male trait, and normally women are more to be trusted than men. I've never looked at that site too closely, but I don't think any of the narcs at http://dontdatehimgirl.com/home/ would call my crap feminist. However, I agree with you in that "It's just each gender using the tools at hand. To accomplish the same."

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