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What causes the extreme anger on the non HPD part?

Postby koos12 » Thu Feb 11, 2010 10:43 pm

I've never been so angry as I was when in the relationship with my ex-HPD wife. For the 3.5 years we were together I blow up about every 3-4 months. Things would be going smoothly then she would start making comments about other men. She would be sly about it though. For example, she once stated that "if I didn't have kids to take care of on the weekends, before I met you, I would have gotten into a lot of trouble with men". Could someone please tell me how a married man is to react when these type of statements are made. There were other times when she seemed bored with me but was very excited about the new men she was meeting at work. I would explode when she talked about all the men at work. Now that I'm away from her I rarely get angry around friends and family. Could someone please explain this?
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Re: What causes the extreme anger on the non HPD part?

Postby Will5900 » Fri Feb 12, 2010 1:52 am

Well, having not been married to one but known one for 8 years. I would say the best reponse would have been gazed at her like she was ######6 crazy (not said anything) and walked away or continued what you were doing. The best response is to say nothing. (let her think about it) Screaming, is well, what she wants... some sort of reaction. Not that I haven't "lost it", I have plenty of times and it just doesn't do anything but make the situtation worse. After you lose it, she justifies in her head that you treated her like $#%^. I just know from prior expriences's It's better not to play in to their "games."

OR you could call her out on "playing games" by saying something like, "I'm not intrested in playing these games right now, im trying to get this done."
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Re: What causes the extreme anger on the non HPD part?

Postby Will5900 » Fri Feb 12, 2010 1:56 am

I barely smoke any pot but I feel like if you are dating an HPD you should have pot on hand at ALL TIMES.
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Re: What causes the extreme anger on the non HPD part?

Postby TatteredKnight » Fri Feb 12, 2010 2:33 am

koos12 wrote:I've never been so angry as I was when in the relationship with my ex-HPD wife. For the 3.5 years we were together I blow up about every 3-4 months. Things would be going smoothly then she would start making comments about other men. She would be sly about it though. For example, she once stated that "if I didn't have kids to take care of on the weekends, before I met you, I would have gotten into a lot of trouble with men". Could someone please tell me how a married man is to react when these type of statements are made. There were other times when she seemed bored with me but was very excited about the new men she was meeting at work. I would explode when she talked about all the men at work. Now that I'm away from her I rarely get angry around friends and family. Could someone please explain this?

I know ex-f**king-actly what you mean, because I was there. The anger is your inner child trying to protect itself when she routinely tramples over your boundaries. Each time she goads you by talking about other men, she's crossing what should be your most fundamental boundary: "Treat me with respect, or I will withdraw from you." The anger is as much at yourself for allowing her to treat you with such disrespect as it is at her for doing so.

The reason you don't get angry much now (and I bet NEVER the searing rage you would have felt once you'd built up a few months' worth of resentment for her goading) is that your friends and family are 'good people' and generally respect your boundaries whether you enforce them or not. That's probably why you're poor at reinforcing boundaries in the first place; your psychological 'immune system' never had to work very hard.
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Re: What causes the extreme anger on the non HPD part?

Postby newtohpd » Tue Feb 16, 2010 11:25 am

The anger is your inner child trying to protect itself when she routinely tramples over your boundaries. Each time she goads you by talking about other men, she's crossing what should be your most fundamental boundary: "Treat me with respect, or I will withdraw from you." The anger is as much at yourself for allowing her to treat you with such disrespect as it is at her for doing so.

The reason you don't get angry much now (and I bet NEVER the searing rage you would have felt once you'd built up a few months' worth of resentment for her goading) is that your friends and family are 'good people' and generally respect your boundaries whether you enforce them or not. That's probably why you're poor at reinforcing boundaries in the first place; your psychological 'immune system' never had to work very hard.


TK keeps hitting the nail on the head.

koos - I remember that when I arrived on this forum, this is the first question I posted. Its members of this forum that helped me see what TK pointed out so eloquently above. Since then I have gone back and worked on myself to improve my boundary setting and enforcement.

I now think of my HPD relationship as a kind of psychological infection that had to happen once, for me to improve my psychological "immune" system. :D
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Re: What causes the extreme anger on the non HPD part?

Postby Musician924 » Tue Feb 16, 2010 12:04 pm

Hi all:
In my opinion and experiences, that feeling of anger comes from knowing you have been "duped" (your boundries violated) but feeling confused enough (the art of obscure insinuation/goading, HPDs are masters at it...), and powerless enough to take appropriate action to protect yourself in time.

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Re: What causes the extreme anger on the non HPD part?

Postby caro81VA » Tue Feb 16, 2010 1:33 pm

I used to have episodes of near-rage, not necessarily always around the HPD. Sometimes it would pop up at work or in other facets of my life. And I'm not an "angry" person generally; in fact, I hate yelling and I'm fairly quiet. I thought I was going nuts, but as I started to recognize and try to deal with what was really going on in my marriage, it got much better. Since I left, I have been an even happier and more peaceful person - so much so, that it has been commented on by friends and coworkers.

The best explanation I've found for this phenomenon is in my favorite article at http://counsellingresource.com/quizzes/loser/index.html

They Make You “Crazy”: “The Loser” operates in such a damaging way that you find yourself doing “crazy” things in self-defense. If “The Loser” is scheduled to arrive at 8:00 pm — you call Time & Temperature to cover the redial, check your garbage for anything that might get you in trouble, and call your family and friends to tell them not to call you that night. You warn family/friends not to bring up certain topics, avoid locations in the community where you might see co-workers or friends, and not speak to others for fear of the 20 questions. You become paranoid as well — being careful what you wear and say. Nonviolent males find themselves in physical fights with female losers. Nonviolent females find themselves yelling and screaming when they can no longer take the verbal abuse or intimidation. In emotional and physical self-defense, we behave differently and oddly. While we think we are “going crazy,” it’s important to remember that there is no such thing as “normal behavior” in a combat situation. Rest assured that your behavior will return to normal if you detach from “The Loser” before permanent psychological damage is done.
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Re: What causes the extreme anger on the non HPD part?

Postby VTheChaosTheoryV » Mon Mar 01, 2010 5:41 am

If she wants to fool around with someone else, then get a custody battle going, try to take the kids and just leave. Leave her to rot and get screwed by many guys as she wants. Maybe she will end up being.... :twisted: :lol:
Trust all the things I tell you are true, dress up in your best so I can be proud of you, and never believe I won't turn on you, and never believe I do this for you. You're leading me on again and I find it, yeah I like it, and I'm reeling in awe for sure, now I know it was given to me.
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