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Postby lones » Mon Jan 19, 2009 3:19 pm

I would say that they are not capable of feeling deep sincere guilt and empathy (IMO to feel guilt, first you have to feel empathy).

Sometimes they almost look like they are feeling guilty. They even may ask your forgiveness. But these feelings come from their need to recover their "good image", their shame, or self interest, other than a real "no strings attached" feeling of guilt.

It's sad really!
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Postby stymie » Mon Jan 19, 2009 5:56 pm

lones wrote:It's sad really!


For who?

They're living it up!!!

At least you know the BPD and NPD suffer for their sins.

I'm starting to wonder if HPD is not the way to be!

I'm almost jealous of them.
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Postby Chazz » Mon Jan 19, 2009 5:57 pm

You are right Stymie...its almost as if they are still trying to inflict pain with their indifference to your feelings.
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Postby MyWave » Tue Jan 20, 2009 2:25 am

If they do feel guilt, it is for a fleeting moment or 2. As soon as the wind blows or the next impulse hits their hollowless soul, your out of their minds like that

ALL their emotions are shallow at best. Even when you were together and thought you both were deeply in love, she was always at the shallow end, and most likely open to the next guy who gave her the time of day

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Postby lones » Tue Jan 20, 2009 4:24 am

stymie wrote:
lones wrote:It's sad really!


For who?

They're living it up!!!

At least you know the BPD and NPD suffer for their sins.

I'm starting to wonder if HPD is not the way to be!

I'm almost jealous of them.


If you imagine living your one and only life without knowing what empathy is. If you imagine all your life filled with nothing more than shalow emotions... It is sad. It is not sad on a forguiving kind of way. It is sad because it makes you feel pitty of someone like that.

At the end my dear stymie, althogh I have suffered and I still do, I wouldn't change my capacity to feel real emotions for their shalowness. Do not forget that we will eventually get pass this and find real love in our lifes. We have that capacity. It is a blessing.

They are doomed to shallowness and emotional void for the rest of their lifes. Isn't it sad?
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Postby lones » Tue Jan 20, 2009 4:29 am

MyWave wrote:Even when you were together and thought you both were deeply in love, she was always at the shallow end, and most likely open to the next guy who gave her the time of day


You really discribed it in a nutshell. That's exactly what I felt. Including when we were still togheter. The problem was that I really didn't whant to beleive it. But in my heart I knew it was the truth!!!

I have no words to discribe my sadness!!!
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Postby charlybrown » Tue Jan 20, 2009 11:46 am

I think that the conversations they have may just disappear quite rapidly after having them. Almost like a form of amnesia, selective of course. When they truly know that they are doing damage to someone though, I think the memory of that action goes immediately into a deep repression that is unlockable. They don't seem to dwell on what they've said 2 minutes ago or 5 years ago unless it benefits their outward appearance.
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Postby Tanquery » Tue Jan 20, 2009 3:03 pm

Like I said in another thread, I think they can 'walk the walk' to keep the peace, but really don't have the capacity for anything much deeper than drama or glorifying themselves.
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Re: Do HPD's feel guilt?

Postby ghost5of7 » Sun Oct 04, 2009 5:08 am

No. Sociopaths are incapable of guilt. And Histrionics are a socipathic type with a self centered orientation. (I can never re,ember how to spell narcississtic lol). They're incapable of truly loving anyone but themselves, and the nature of their disorder makes them prone to actually ENJOYING the pain they inflict. It validates their hold on the victim, and is why we're referred to as a "supply". They're spiritual parasites.
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Re: Do HPD's feel guilt?

Postby Leviathan » Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:44 pm

No expert on PD's, but the last time I checked, a lack of guilt wasn't part of HPD.
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