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Postby 411needed » Thu Dec 11, 2008 8:08 pm

I have noticed that the site has not been active in the last few days. Normally when I come to it it is active and the post icons are shaking because of the high interest of popular posts. People are out for the truth of what you have been through with a hpd person and the psychological abuse that you have endured.

My ex and another person clearly suffering from hpd managed to destroy a positive outlet with lies and manipulation. I was banned as a result of letting my ex get to me. I should not have allowed the manipulation to work, but I did. For that I am sorry to all who are on this site. I never ment to cause a bump in the healing process with my own personal problems and vent openly to her and her to me.

I can't help but point out how effective at manipulation and pathological lieing my ex and the other hpd use. They managed to turn off a positive source of truth. The whole look of me, the whole truth of the hpd, and using lies to achieve this goal. A goal that looks like worked! It will forever be a mystery why we let people with hpd control us with their distruptive ways. The cry for being a victim is the most powerful trick in psychological realm in my opinion.

The hpd's have managed to turn this site into a circus with direct assults against me and I got banned for reacting and standing up for the truth. It was the same person(my ex hpd) that emailed the vp to get me reinstated? She attacked me, I defended myself, I got banned for providing the truth and I suggested a polygraph, the attacker(my ex) had the power to give me back my screen name by emailing the vp of this site??? Figure this out if you can! My ex hpd had the power to manipulate all of this?????? How????

The person with hpd has extreme power when it comes to what they want or who they are after to get. For love or revenge, they are crafty in their skill.

I think that I am going to give this site a rest and continue to work on writing this book because it is clear to me that the hpd will lie and most believe the lies with no question about the truth!

The truth of my situation will be available in hardback and hopefully it will be published sooner than later. And yes, I'm going sooooo public with this and it might ruffle a whole bunch of tail feathers! Oh well? The truth is truth and my ex hpd no longer has control over my life and the direction it is going in! I will however try and make a few bucks off of the experience, hahaha! Later

Never forget what Benjamin Franklin stated:

"The good men may do separately is small compared with what they may do collectively."
Why did I never walk away
Why I played myself this way
Now I see
Testing me, pushes me away
Linkin Park "Pushing Me Away"
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Postby Chucky » Thu Dec 11, 2008 9:53 pm

I am usually active here but I have had some comments made against the usefullness of my being here recently. What do you hope to achieve by all of these posts that you have made here? I am going to be honest with you in saying that nobody will probably read them (except me) because they are too long. People who come here just don't have the patience or will-power to read a lengthy post by someone else.

On another issue, I feel that you have portrayed a person with HPD in a very negative light here, but I'm aware that you're only referring to your own experiences with them.
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Postby Peptron » Thu Dec 11, 2008 10:48 pm

Chucky wrote:On another issue, I feel that you have portrayed a person with HPD in a very negative light here, but I'm aware that you're only referring to your own experiences with them.

Have you ever had to deal with an HPD? To me it's like claiming that somebody is portraying a wife-beater in a poor light. I mean a wife-beater might have good qualities and be a rather nice person otherwise, but he still beats his wife.

I personally have to deal with an HPD in my life, and while I try to not see her as pure-evil, it's very difficult not to do so. People with cluster B personality disorders are "aggressor" personalities, though I can sympathize with some borderlines. They are personalities that WILL walk on you when they get the occasion, so you have to know how to prevent that, and more importantly, know that they do walk on people at all.
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Postby 411needed » Thu Dec 11, 2008 10:53 pm

Chucky wrote:

I am usually active here but I have had some comments made against the usefullness of my being here recently. What do you hope to achieve by all of these posts that you have made here?


To help me as well as others going through the psychological abuse of a hpd person. If one sentence can help shine light on what a person is going through while loving someone that has hpd, I'm happy. Somebody can see the truth that a person with hpd distorts oh so well. That is a personal goal, to shine llight on the true nature of the person with histrionic personality disorder.

And the nobody reads this stuff? I have had people email my personal email and thank me for something I said or posted. Not that that matters, just proves that people read this stuff when they are in the midst of tradegy.

I was up until 3 am in the morning trying to find out why my ex wife does what she does and see if the relationship was worth salvaging. Trying to find out why she did what she did? There was alot of information here to help, but the dynamics of the abuse portion I read here expanded my mind to look at the abuse. When I looked for evidence, I just started posting? It is helping with boredum while painting my house and taking time away from work.
I'm not just going to go away though, there isn't enough information on the hpd available to the public about what the ex lover of the hpd has gone through.
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Why I played myself this way
Now I see
Testing me, pushes me away
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Postby Gwenllian » Thu Dec 11, 2008 11:18 pm

Hey 411,

Hang in there. I can't speak for everyone, but I'm assuming that many of us here have been deeply hurt by these people, and we need to talk to others who have been through the same thing. It's part of the healing process.

I was as distraught as you seem to be now when I was living with my HPD boyfriend. But now that he has been gone for almost a year, I can look at things more calmly and more dispassionately, which is when the real understanding comes, believe me. I am still in contact with him every day, because for the simple fact that I love him.

Love is very strong, and can overcome a lot of things.

However, I'm also a very passionate, excitable person and I get angry easily. This seems to be the way you are as well, because I can see myself in you. I was drawn into a physical fight with him a few times when he was here and he had been drinking; my anger got the better of me because he gets vicious and mean when he drinks. I wasn't drinking, otherwise I might not have fought with him. When I drink I just get silly at first, then maudlin and then sleepy. I don't like to drink; he's an alcoholic.

I am very ashamed of myself and how I allowed myself to get out of control. It's no excuse, but these people are experts at making you lose control.

I have made friends with someone who has introduced me to a meditation CD by this Christian guy who guides you through the meditation. I was very skeptical about it, but it works - I don't know how, I don't care how...it just does. It helps with dealing with these kind of people, and also stress of any kind in your daily life. I was desperate for anything like this that would help, because my life is very stressful right now. Stress is a major cause of all the diseases that eventually will kill you, including cancer. I just want peace! And this does help, amazingly.

I can give you the link to order it if you want.
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Postby seanetal » Thu Dec 11, 2008 11:33 pm

Actually it was the interactions I had with you and several other members of the site that brought about your allowed return to the forums. Your ex had little impact on that decision. If you want to credit any one person beside yourself, I would say credit shivers, her pm to me made the decision even considerable.

Your remorse and apologies showed you had learned the lesson here and that you obviously needed the site. After those emails with you, I had already stated that you could come back as another username if you kept your temper under control. Your ex started the argument on here and will not be allowed back.

Her emails to me stated very clearly that she intended not to come back to the site and she included a statement that she did not intent for you to get banned. To me that was close enough to an apology on her part for pushing you to a breaking point.

My comments about you coming back under another name were made after shivers pm asking you be unbanned. I discussed the situation with several others after your ex sent her email and they agreed that allowing you back with a very short leash (pardon the expression) was an appropriate action.
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Postby Gwenllian » Thu Dec 11, 2008 11:42 pm

Oh, I guess it's a free download for the meditation CD. I listen to it every night, and it puts me to sleep. I used to have to take meletonin and valerian root to get to sleep, but this does the trick. I guess you should also listen when you are awake, and that way you can actually do the meditation too. Word of warning though, don't listen too closely or concentrate on anything else he says, because it doesn't really help at first, if you're not open to it. The only thing that really works is the meditation part, where he essentially trains you to relax. I guess that's pretty much the trick, maybe. His voice is very soothing if you listen to it on a very low volume.

http://www.fhu.com/meditation.html

Also, I have found this website to be of enormous help:

http://www.narcissismcured.com/Home.html

http://www.narcissism.com.au/Confirmation.html

http://www.narcissismsupport.com/narcis ... pport.html
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Postby Chucky » Thu Dec 11, 2008 11:52 pm

The response by Peptron is what I was referring to about people being 'against' my replying here. I make comments about how people with HPD are portrayed in a bad light constantly, and that I feel as if there are many people with HPD who are in control and are actually nice people. We only hear about the bad ones here because it's the victims of people with HPD who make posts here.

Anyway, that's great that people send you emails praising you for your posts. That said, keep up the good work. I shall bow out of here once more.

Take care,
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Postby Peptron » Fri Dec 12, 2008 12:54 am

Chucky wrote:The response by Peptron is what I was referring to about people being 'against' my replying here. I make comments about how people with HPD are portrayed in a bad light constantly, and that I feel as if there are many people with HPD who are in control and are actually nice people. We only hear about the bad ones here because it's the victims of people with HPD who make posts here.

My view on this is that on such a forum like HPD and NPD, you end up with both the victims and people having the disorder posting at the same place. Somebody made the parallel with a "rape" forum where both rape victims and rapists that want to work on themselves are posters. While it can be nice to try to help a rapist to work on himself, doing so in a place full of rape victims you end up with a very odd atmosphere. I can understand a rape victim getting insulted at a rapist getting a lot of positive attention. This might be an extreme example, but the parallel is obvious.

There is something else about it though: I can see an HPD come here and seek help, but in my view an HPD that reached that level of self-understanding is "probably" not a strong case of HPD, or is at least on the way to recovery. The exception being if it becomes obvious that the HPD comes here and try to fix themselves through HPD behavior (like agressor/victim inversion, garnering attention, etc). I can see HPDs use this site for self-help, but the problem is that any moment somebody suggests them something that they don't want to hear, they immediately revert to HPD behavior. In fact I don't even think I've seen an exception to this rule. Unfortunately, people with personality disorders tend to be walking stereotypes... you know one you know them all.
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Postby crazysexycool » Fri Dec 12, 2008 12:57 am

411Needed:

I want to offer my sincerest of apologies for misjudging you and your situation- I read violence and that immediately clouded everything - That is something i am strongly against - i know now that there are more issues than that and i can see the manipulation techniques she was using. At first i thought it was the most HPD thing she could do - invade a forum you contribute heavily towards and slate you - at first i knew it was manipulation and then when i heard violence i ws like "woah, no wonder she comes across as HPD" but anyways for what it is worth - i apologise sincerely for what i said before and also that you have to deal with someone who is willing to make up something like that.
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