Pathetic anger venting on people seeking help!!!

Ocean wrote:I'm sorry, but I checked and there is no listing for "abusive personality disorder" in the DSM.

There isn't directly. But the personality disorders of NPD, BPD, Anti-Social and to some extent HPD are all abusive.

What is it with HPD women and tinkerbell, Hello Kitty and all forms of kid stuff?

Don't get me wrong I love disney, but geez. It is like these women never grow up and always want to be "princesses."

CrazySexyCool, In your own statements you admit to hurting men intentionally. That is a big deal. You might have your own internal struggles, but don't inflict them on men and damage us. HPD's take normally strong protective men and turn us into codependents by trying to meed your attention needs. Stop the cycle, get help, stop dating and fix yourself before your break more men. I firmly believe that women with HPD are turning men into women haters. I know mine has made me look upon the fairer sex with distain. So get HELP!

Sir*Lingam

TTC: Thank you, you have asked a question nooone has ever
asked, or that I have ever considered. What do i want from life?

The only aspects of my future i have considered is related to looks and money. I want to be rich, successful and to look young and beautiful for my age. I generally don't think about marriage or my future love life...i dont picture kids, a family or a husband as a factor contibuting to my future happiness. I guess i don't consider it to be important. Which on reflection does sound a bit sad and like a recipe for longterm loneliness. Whether or not that wil change i am unsure at the moment.

I want to seek help to remove some of the demons i have, and the hate i feel for myself. I have only ever been hurt by one man (boy). And i was increibly young (aged 14-18 ) and he cheated on me like most teenage boys do...this hurt me alot more than it should have, i threatened suicide, made malicious calls to his family, pretended to be pregnant etc....all for attention...on reflection when I finally left him (yes i left him...) i realised i never really loved him. It was more about making sure he didnt cheat on me because he didnt love me (i needed to prove to myself that he was deeply in loe with me) He had cheated on me within 6 weeks and i felt scorned (how dare he!!!!) and i think i stuck around for ages trying to win him back and make him fall deep in love with me so i could ###$ up his head.(which i successfully did) He had utmost faith that he could do anything to me and get away with it and that i would always be there for him. Whe i eventually left him, he stalked me for 8 months, stole my car and burned it and now has a crack habit. Anyway i guess the point im trying to make is that after all that crap so young i was like NEVER again!!!! and i have never been hurt ever again! i would rather be the one that inflicts pain than the one suffereing. I have had 2 breast enlargements and would say i am incredibly sexy and attractive..i think that im too attractive sometimes and that a guy will never really trust me as i am quite an openly sexual person.(past partners complain about the crude comments or flirtations i make to strangers, waiters, service staff, colleagues, family friends etc etc) anyway if they dont trust me i will give them something not to trust...im not going to be accused of something i didnt do and then not do it.

In regards to changing, i am quite popular, especially with guys, alot of people like my personality and think im quite fun and they enjoy hearing me speak, i am quite liberal and blunt and upfront. I dont mask what i think or tone it down just to please others. Anway i like who i am sometimes...i think i am quite exciting..someone summed it up on a former post...i am very very addictive ....i have few female friends but the ones i do have would die for me (probably as they want to be me ) one of them bought the same car as me , wears my clothes and cut her hair in the same way... The point is i am never explicitly happy nor sad...i am unusual and i like that. I should get help but i would be doing that for other peoples benefit and not mine...i dont want to change my personality...i just want to not wake up feeling empty and like a slut. I would prefer therapy for my self esteem than for hpd....i am what i am ...and i dont want to change that....i dont need help for hpd per se...i need help for the pain and hurt i feel about minor things and for my self esteem.

please i didnt post the previous post to offend anyone or to laugh at men. i really genuinely pity you as i know how well a hpd can make out that they are in love with you and that you are the best thing ever and then quickly leave you with no explanation....when we say those things we do think we feel it i guess, we dont say we love you to get money or anything. ...i guess its to make you love us....????? i dont know...im not too sure but i know it can seem cruel and cold...this is never the sole intent....we dont seek out to mess with you...every relationship is entered for genuine reasons! We are attracted to you or you are a nice person etc....its never us seeking weak people or anything like that. It just happens that because of our issues with men and ourselves we are incapable of genuinely being faithful, we have few values. That includes everything...from how we get money to relationships etc

On the plus side if you have had a hpd GF in the past and learned from it, i can assure you you know every trick in every womans book...no woman will ever be able to manipulate you again using the sme methods based on what you know.

Oh my god, do you not have any mercy for life? The way you look at life and other people is like objects.................

We are human and don't deserve this mean type of interaction with a person like you! You don't see that you are doing mean things because it is all from your point of view. When you are able to consider the other persons feeling before acting then you will become whole again.

You will never wash away the stuff that you have already done, but you can change the feeling like a slut when you wake up! You can fill the empty void. The empty void is there because you won't allow yourself to feel. Do you have a bad memory? This is because you are looking at what the other people want from you instead of you getting the full satisfaction from life that you deserve!! You do deserve it!! You have to be alone and think about life!!! What do you want people to think about when they think about you? If you want to be viewed as a slut, ok? Looks like your on the right path. If you want to be viewed as sweet, classy, honest and full of life than you better starting changing now! If you waste your life away that is your business!

My ex wife is 33 and she wasted so much life on stuff that she can't even remember about. She lived most of her life disconnected from her feelings.................... She is a mess now!! The void gets bigger and bigger and to fill it you will be more of what you never thought you wanted to be to fill the huge void! Slutty, unaware, lost, and sad only to find out it is too late because you have HIV??

What will you do to fix it is what you should be asking here. You are in la la land thinking that you are living the right way!!!

This is the point where you think that I don't know who you are right? Who does when you don't even know yourself. Face yourself and rewrite who you are to find a better life!!! You can if you just say it out loud and stay with it............

Let mercy in and feel what you are doing to people, if not for you than for them!!!

crazysexycool wrote:The only aspects of my future i have considered is related to looks and money. I want to be rich, successful and to look young and beautiful for my age. I generally don't think about marriage or my future love life...i dont picture kids, a family or a husband as a factor contibuting to my future happiness. I guess i don't consider it to be important. Which on reflection does sound a bit sad and like a recipe for longterm loneliness. Whether or not that wil change i am unsure at the moment.

I want to seek help to remove some of the demons i have, and the hate i feel for myself. I have only ever been hurt by one man (boy). And i was increibly young (aged 14-18 ) and he cheated on me like most teenage boys do...this hurt me alot more than it should have, i threatened suicide, made malicious calls to his family, pretended to be pregnant etc....all for attention...on reflection when I finally left him (yes i left him...) i realised i never really loved him. It was more about making sure he didnt cheat on me because he didnt love me (i needed to prove to myself that he was deeply in loe with me) He had cheated on me within 6 weeks and i felt scorned (how dare he!!!!) and i think i stuck around for ages trying to win him back and make him fall deep in love with me so i could ###$ up his head.(which i successfully did) He had utmost faith that he could do anything to me and get away with it and that i would always be there for him. Whe i eventually left him, he stalked me for 8 months, stole my car and burned it and now has a crack habit. Anyway i guess the point im trying to make is that after all that crap so young i was like NEVER again!!!! and i have never been hurt ever again! i would rather be the one that inflicts pain than the one suffereing. I have had 2 breast enlargements and would say i am incredibly sexy and attractive..i think that im too attractive sometimes and that a guy will never really trust me as i am quite an openly sexual person.(past partners complain about the crude comments or flirtations i make to strangers, waiters, service staff, colleagues, family friends etc etc) anyway if they dont trust me i will give them something not to trust...im not going to be accused of something i didnt do and then not do it.

In regards to changing, i am quite popular, especially with guys, alot of people like my personality and think im quite fun and they enjoy hearing me speak, i am quite liberal and blunt and upfront. I dont mask what i think or tone it down just to please others. Anway i like who i am sometimes...i think i am quite exciting..someone summed it up on a former post...i am very very addictive ....i have few female friends but the ones i do have would die for me (probably as they want to be me ) one of them bought the same car as me , wears my clothes and cut her hair in the same way... The point is i am never explicitly happy nor sad...i am unusual and i like that. I should get help but i would be doing that for other peoples benefit and not mine...i dont want to change my personality...i just want to not wake up feeling empty and like a slut. I would prefer therapy for my self esteem than for hpd....i am what i am ...and i dont want to change that....i dont need help for hpd per se...i need help for the pain and hurt i feel about minor things and for my self esteem.

please i didnt post the previous post to offend anyone or to laugh at men. i really genuinely pity you as i know how well a hpd can make out that they are in love with you and that you are the best thing ever and then quickly leave you with no explanation....when we say those things we do think we feel it i guess, we dont say we love you to get money or anything. ...i guess its to make you love us....????? i dont know...im not too sure but i know it can seem cruel and cold...this is never the sole intent....we dont seek out to mess with you...every relationship is entered for genuine reasons! We are attracted to you or you are a nice person etc....its never us seeking weak people or anything like that. It just happens that because of our issues with men and ourselves we are incapable of genuinely being faithful, we have few values. That includes everything...from how we get money to relationships etc

Wow, You have no empathy at all, do you? That is why you have low self esteem and a void in you life. You focus only on you and what makes you feel good. And while that isn't all bad, you must understand your actions have impact on others and until you realize that and take that into account, that void will only grow. You mentioned being hurt early by a cheating bf and then you lack the insight to see that you are doing the same thing to men that this boy did to you. So you have become the thing that hurts you. Classic Histrionic behavior, you run to that which scares you. Along with the sever lack of empathy and your obvious obsession with weath and beauty, you have doomed yourself to a shallow life that will only be good to you as long as you are willing to put out to any guy with money or until your beauty has faded and you are left broke and alone. I really suggest you seek help for your selfesteem and HPD. If not you will further sink into the void of your own making and ultimately when your beauty fades (and it will if it isnt already) you will look back to see only broken relationships and that people don't trust or value you at all.

Be well and get help.

Sir*Lingam

Really, guys, why are you wasting your breath? Any of us could have written that HPD manifesto; our understanding of the HPD is at least that good. There are no surprises here. Just one more HPD just like all the others. I'm beginning to think they were all mass produced in the same factory- if they were all in the same room at the same time, I don't think we would be able to tell one from the other! (On crime shows, they identify them by the serial numbers on their breast implants.) Once you see how similar they all are to each other they really become quite boring.

Roni wrote:Really, guys, why are you wasting your breath? Any of us could have written that HPD manifesto; our understanding of the HPD is at least that good. There are no surprises here. Just one more HPD just like all the others. I'm beginning to think they were all mass produced in the same factory- if they were all in the same room at the same time, I don't think we would be able to tell one from the other! (On crime shows, they identify them by the serial numbers on their breast implants.) Once you see how similar they all are to each other they really become quite boring.

Ha Ha. They are all badly programmed Stepford Wives.

crazysexycool wrote:TTC: Thank you, you have asked a question nooone has ever
asked, or that I have ever considered. What do i want from life?

The only aspects of my future i have considered is related to looks and money. I want to be rich, successful and to look young and beautiful for my age. I generally don't think about marriage or my future love life...i dont picture kids, a family or a husband as a factor contibuting to my future happiness. I guess i don't consider it to be important. Which on reflection does sound a bit sad and like a recipe for longterm loneliness. Whether or not that wil change i am unsure at the moment.

I want to seek help to remove some of the demons i have, and the hate i feel for myself. I have only ever been hurt by one man (boy). And i was increibly young (aged 14-18 ) and he cheated on me like most teenage boys do...this hurt me alot more than it should have, i threatened suicide, made malicious calls to his family, pretended to be pregnant etc....all for attention...on reflection when I finally left him (yes i left him...) i realised i never really loved him. It was more about making sure he didnt cheat on me because he didnt love me (i needed to prove to myself that he was deeply in loe with me) He had cheated on me within 6 weeks and i felt scorned (how dare he!!!!) and i think i stuck around for ages trying to win him back and make him fall deep in love with me so i could ###$ up his head.(which i successfully did) He had utmost faith that he could do anything to me and get away with it and that i would always be there for him. Whe i eventually left him, he stalked me for 8 months, stole my car and burned it and now has a crack habit. Anyway i guess the point im trying to make is that after all that crap so young i was like NEVER again!!!! and i have never been hurt ever again! i would rather be the one that inflicts pain than the one suffereing. I have had 2 breast enlargements and would say i am incredibly sexy and attractive..i think that im too attractive sometimes and that a guy will never really trust me as i am quite an openly sexual person.(past partners complain about the crude comments or flirtations i make to strangers, waiters, service staff, colleagues, family friends etc etc) anyway if they dont trust me i will give them something not to trust...im not going to be accused of something i didnt do and then not do it.

In regards to changing, i am quite popular, especially with guys, alot of people like my personality and think im quite fun and they enjoy hearing me speak, i am quite liberal and blunt and upfront. I dont mask what i think or tone it down just to please others. Anway i like who i am sometimes...i think i am quite exciting..someone summed it up on a former post...i am very very addictive ....i have few female friends but the ones i do have would die for me (probably as they want to be me ) one of them bought the same car as me , wears my clothes and cut her hair in the same way... The point is i am never explicitly happy nor sad...i am unusual and i like that. I should get help but i would be doing that for other peoples benefit and not mine...i dont want to change my personality...i just want to not wake up feeling empty and like a slut. I would prefer therapy for my self esteem than for hpd....i am what i am ...and i dont want to change that....i dont need help for hpd per se...i need help for the pain and hurt i feel about minor things and for my self esteem.

please i didnt post the previous post to offend anyone or to laugh at men. i really genuinely pity you as i know how well a hpd can make out that they are in love with you and that you are the best thing ever and then quickly leave you with no explanation....when we say those things we do think we feel it i guess, we dont say we love you to get money or anything. ...i guess its to make you love us....????? i dont know...im not too sure but i know it can seem cruel and cold...this is never the sole intent....we dont seek out to mess with you...every relationship is entered for genuine reasons! We are attracted to you or you are a nice person etc....its never us seeking weak people or anything like that. It just happens that because of our issues with men and ourselves we are incapable of genuinely being faithful, we have few values. That includes everything...from how we get money to relationships etc

On the plus side if you have had a hpd GF in the past and learned from it, i can assure you you know every trick in every womans book...no woman will ever be able to manipulate you again using the sme methods based on what you know.

Hahahahahahaha. Lack of empathy, lack of consistency in her posts, extreme selfishness, not thinking before speaking, psycho traits, wanting (without seeking) help for the wrong reasons, not feeling any shame ... and let's not forget that sexy attractive avatar.

Oh, baby. That's my kinda girl

Hey, did she say she pities us? Hahahahaha. I love the way they speak.

Roni's right. Guys you don't seem to be aware you are feeding the monster. It's all ho-hum. Repetitive and could have been written by any person who claims HPD. It's almost a script.

Do HPD's have HS, just like NPD's have NS, (narcissistic supply)? It's their engagement with others to achieve something for themselves. The people they engage with are called 'supply'.

If she said she was HPD in another thread, I didn't see it and I will concede that.

Also, I know there is NPD, Anti-social, blah blah. I was making a point -- just because someone behaves badly, it doesn't mean they have a PD.

Like everyone else, I have my own personal faults. I have been selfish, I have let people down, I have done things I am not proud of. This site makes me envision one of my exes whom I broke it off with -- hurt and angry -- and coming on here railing about how awful I am and saying I have a PD.

All of my good works and bleeding-heart volunteer work will go out the window, because some guy thought I was a selfish tart because I dumped him.

That's what bothers me.

I came here because I had my own run in with an HPD. But I seem to make everyone angry because I don't like abuse on other members or because I am slow to make judgments on others. Oh well.

I will stick around (if time permits) regardless. I am juggling school and work so I am not as quick to respond.

Thanks for listening.