Help with Seemingly HPD Person

ssr360 wrote:You can call her many things, but she definitely wasn't that. A whore will be a whore 100% of the time, not 25%.

-Sam

Hey Sam, I had to use a harsh language to get my point across to youl. I am sorry but I have to do it again.

She IS a WHORE and you ARE a fool, because you don't understand it and, therefore, are in potential trouble.

Money may talk in your world and that's why you are blinded by it and think she is not yet a whore. But let me tell you that money does NOT talk in my world (I was born onto a different planet, that's how it almost seems now, living in this country of yellow devil.) But whore does not always get paid by men. [Definition:]Whore is she who USES men for achieving HER OWN goals. She does not have any more feelings to you than you do to your lug nut wrench. (Believe me, you are NOT the only tool in her toolbox, among the so-called 'options', he-he). But if anything happens, she would feel as much remourse to you as she did to your dying father.

Of course, getting cash is the simplest way for whore to achieve her goals, but by no means the only or even the best one. That's the difference between smart experienced and fresh bitches. Whores are not 'misunderstood', 'childhood-abused' and blah-blah-blah. They are just lazy, rot spoiled (and often silly) bitches who just don't want to WORK but seek a free ride and have fun.

You can't save a rotten tomato. You can't help her but she can destroy your life. Realize it, take your money and leave for good. Find a good girl (if there are any left) and marry. Forget the sluts and the so-called 'gentlemen (he-he)'s houses'.

P. S. I don't know how old are you, but when I was your age (he-he), I used to be the same kind of fool.

I do see what you are getting at. She is out of that club now and there is really no money in the picture.

Whatever money there was wasn't much anyway. In the USA money does talk. If she's a money whore then she's a bad one.


She lost alot of money just sitting down talking to me when she could have been in her VIP room doling out massages. Half the time she refused money, the other half I would give her money for about 50% of what she would have made.

She is however an attention whore, who is selfish. She has been abused at an early age, but I see what you mean. I get that part there. But if you use that definition of whores, then you're right there is little hope in this world.

I doubt she has any other "tools" Men, women and even her own family don't put up with her #######4 outside of that club, hence she married to someone who beats her and treats her like crap.

I was the only fool who really bothered to see her for something more than a two bit stripper. The fault is mine in that regard. I should have known better.

I'm 25 and my father was a capable man and made sure I made something of myself. Most women only look at me as a way of getting my father's money. Are they any less of a whore than this one?

Vald wrote:

ssr360 wrote:
Hey Sam, I had to use a harsh language to get my point across to youl. I am sorry but I have to do it again.

She IS a WHORE and you ARE a fool, because you don't understand it and, therefore, are in potential trouble.

Money may talk in your world and that's why you are blinded by it and think she is not yet a whore. But let me tell you that money does NOT talk in my world (I was born onto a different planet, that's how it almost seems now, living in this country of yellow devil.) But whore does not always get paid by men. [Definition:]Whore is she who USES men for achieving HER OWN goals. She does not have any more feelings to you than you do to your lug nut wrench. (Believe me, you are NOT the only tool in her toolbox, among the so-called 'options', he-he). But if anything happens, she would feel as much remourse to you as she did to your dying father.

Of course, getting cash is the simplest way for whore to achieve her goals, but by no means the only or even the best one. That's the difference between smart experienced and fresh bitches. Whores are not 'misunderstood', 'childhood-abused' and blah-blah-blah. They are just lazy, rot spoiled (and often silly) bitches who just don't want to WORK but seek a free ride and have fun.

You can't save a rotten tomato. You can't help her but she can destroy your life. Realize it, take your money and leave for good. Find a good girl (if there are any left) and marry. Forget the sluts and the so-called 'gentlemen (he-he)'s houses'.

P. S. I don't know how old are you, but when I was your age (he-he), I used to be the same kind of fool.

ssr360 wrote:In the USA money does talk. If she's a money whore then she's a bad one.

Try to break out of your USA "money talks" mindset (yes, I know it's hard). Whorism is not about money, it's about getting free living with no real work, self-gratification and having fun using male fools as resourses (so-called 'daddies' or 'wallets'). Now she is just young and stupid. She will be a 'money whore' when and if she gets over 30, lose her physical appeal but grow more avarice and cynicism (not sure how to spell it in English). (I wrote 'if' because I'm sure she is on soon will be heavy on drugs, so many of them never make it over 30).

ssr360 wrote:She lost alot of money just sitting down talking to me when she could have been in her VIP room doling out massages. Half the time she refused money, the other half I would give her money for about 50% of what she would have made.

She is however an attention whore, who is selfish.

See - money is not uber allez after all, despite of what they've been feeding you. For women 'being loved' is more important (unless they are dying of hunger). They may call it 'attention whores', but she just wants to be cherished and astonishing despite of she knows about herslef deep inside, that she's just a worthless piece of crap herself, not worth of any loving. But she'd rather die than admit to herself - it's against their deep biological instincts. I know, they may called it their psycho-bable-isms, but I believe it's just American (doctor Spooked) upbringing in its best fruits, the Reality Unmasked. Spoil a little girl - raise a whore (simple as that, been known for centuries). I can give you quite solid scientific explanation of it, but not here and now (it takes reading books).

ssr360 wrote: She has been abused at an early age, but I see what you mean. I get that part there. But if you use that definition of whores, then you're right there is little hope in this world.

B.S. Many good people grow good despite of and even *because* of early childhood troubles. Bad ones have*chosen* to grow bad, rationalizing their own choice by nowdays trendy theories (whatever fashionable is now).

ssr360 wrote:
I doubt she has any other "tools"

He-he, that's why I cannot stress it more - here you are in for a big-big surprise ) Why she keeps so secretive then? What she has to hide? I am 100% positive it's the same old dirty 'secret' of all of them, he-he. Funny, they hate it when we mix with several girls at once, but they don't see anything wrong when they do it to us But they do try to keep it secret as much as possible, pure instinctively, I think.

BTW, that's why her current 'hubby' 'abuses' her. Because he knows for a fact, from inside info what a whore she is. But you can only see her emails and what kind of performance she chooses to expose you to.

ssr360 wrote:
I'm 25 and my father was a capable man and made sure I made something of myself. Most women only look at me as a way of getting my father's money. Are they any less of a whore than this one?

Huh, so I was right guessing your age And you are right, THAT IS THE QUESTION. Karl Marx once said that these bourgoeus women just seek to get a wholesale deal on prostitution. I guess he had a point though some highly-respected, good-lived matrones would strongly argue with that, so I leave it open for now.
Everybody has to answer it for himself. I don't want to put more pessimism into your young hot head now than is required to warn you to stay away from sluts like that.

Cherios, amiga

[quote="ssr360"]I do see what you are getting at. She is out of that club now and there is really no money in the picture.

Whatever money there was wasn't much anyway. In the USA money does talk. If she's a money whore then she's a bad one.


She lost alot of money just sitting down talking to me when she could have been in her VIP room doling out massages. Half the time she refused money, the other half I would give her money for about 50% of what she would have made.

She is however an attention whore, who is selfish. She has been abused at an early age, but I see what you mean. I get that part there. But if you use that definition of whores, then you're right there is little hope in this world.

I doubt she has any other "tools" Men, women and even her own family don't put up with her #######4 outside of that club, hence she married to someone who beats her and treats her like crap.

I was the only fool who really bothered to see her for something more than a two bit stripper. The fault is mine in that regard. I should have known better.

I'm 25 and my father was a capable man and made sure I made something of myself. Most women only look at me as a way of getting my father's money. Are they any less of a whore than this one? [quote]


It looks to me like you are in love with a whore. That's a though case buddy. No offence, but either convert to monks or leave her.

ssr360 wrote:What do I do?

Thanks
Sam

Switching off your email would be a good start.

After you've done that, stop trying to pre-empt this lady. Your post is full of how she was holding things back, or she wanted to tell you something, or she's upset and hurt about stuff, or she's not telling the truth, or she's lieing, and she's this and that and everything else.

But what about you? Try and forget what YOU think is going on inside her head, and concentrate on figuring out what is going on inside your own head.

In a nutshell, you've become enmeshed with this woman to the degree that you are neglecting your own well-being, and that cannot be good.

Stop getting emotional with all the email correspondence and visits to the club and worrying about HER problems. She's roped you right into her own little drama's.

Try and fulfill your own life with your own stuff, instead of having hers fill it for you. You may need some professional counselling to try and figure out why you felt the need to become so enmeshed with a woman connected to a man's club. Don't be shy or defensive about that, but some 'talking over' to try and figure out what is missing about yourself that made you so easily attracted and pulled into this woman's web can be very helpful.

I've only read your initial post, not any subsequent replies, but I'm guessing they won't reveal too much that is new, except for perhaps how you got yourself embroiled in more of her sh!t.

Take care and good luck, eh?

Hi Everyone,
Thanks for your comments.

I am definitely not in love with her that's for sure. She tried that angle first, and I made it clear I wasn't attracted to her or interested. (Which always pissed her off) There are enough good girls in the real world that I can seek out if romance is something up my alley.

As to why I was involved? We went through a lot of common things in our lives, things that made it difficult for others to connect to me.

People can't be supportive about certain things unless they've experienced it, and that was the case with her. She had a unique perspective that gave me a ton of insight into things.

Was it worth all the drama, no.

Yes, she's a whore but it puzzles me that she lost money to sit with me. That just makes no sense.

She doesn't work at the club anymore and I don't need her drama.
I did turn off my email for some three months. I only wrote to her because I felt maybe I was harsh in my final email to her.

In that email, I say all the things you are all saying here: That is she selfish, a user, and basically a whore but didn't use the words.

I don't like to be excessively nasty to people so I felt bad.

Her semi bitchy email back just convinced me she deserved that email I sent, so if anything I don't feel guilty anymore!!

You are all right about her. I am just venting because I should have pulled the plug on it a long time ago.

I was just SO confused about why a person who works in a strip club would give up money to talk to me and get busted. So it became an unhealthy puzzle until I figured out what her deal was.

What it sounds like is that she just craved the nice things I told her. In my case she didn't crave money, but attention and to a degree control.

I called her selfish in my last email and when she emailed her condolences for my dad, she vented about that. She can't bear to hear criticism. It is actually funny how easy it is to wind her up.

She can dish it out but she can't take it.

ssr360 wrote: She can't bear to hear criticism. It is actually funny how easy it is to wind her up.

She can dish it out but she can't take it.

Boy, do I know women like that... they're all around, man!
No, I wouldn't call it a disease. It's nothing but plain old selfishness and egocentrism at new highs. No country left for good old men...

Thanks to everyone for their responses!!

I am so glad I found this site. I am just reeling from the loss of my dad. He had cancer since I was 6 and the end came suddenly and unexpectedly. I ended up having to pull the plug on him, but every doctor felt it was the right thing to do.

Things are ok, but it's been two months (today) so I am not that far removed from it.

Part of the reason I reached out is because I don't want to get dragged into her drama against just because of this.

-Sam

I'm sorry to hear about your Dad, that must have been very hard for you, especially since age 6, you've never really known him without his cancer, which has robbed you of a fulfilling relationship with him.

At a time of high stress, it's best you take more attention to your self-care than ever before, and that certainly does NOT include this woman's problems back in your focus.

Do something for yourself, it's important.

Edited to add an afterthought.

Perhaps you have started to think about this woman's drama's again as a way of avoiding the stong feelings of grief about your Dad. She's a distraction, and I notice so many references made by you about how SHE feels that it's quite possible that she's a diversion for you and a way to avoid some of your own issues.

Shivers,
Thanks for your postings, they are quite insightful.

Actually what triggered it was my dad's funeral procession drove through the town she lives in and past her place of work.

As I said I had finished this nonsense and blocked my email back in December. This just stirred up some questions in my head I guess.

A mutual friend told me that she was selling all her things in a desperate attempt to get some cash for her new kid. She hasn't been able to get a proper job it seems, no surprise given her lack of formal education.

I guess I felt bad for her. Hence the email to her. At the same time I don't feel too bad because unlike her I invested in myself and at least have a respectable life and job.

As for my dad's stuff, there is no escaping his absence. I lived at home my whole life, and only left to attend grad school in London for a year. Because of his illness he had to accelerate my life. It was about studying at a good school and growing up fast so I could take care of everything and my mom who suffers from mental illness of her own.

It was a race to get to this day, where he was gone and it was just my mother and myself. I'm managing the objectives of it quite well, but don't know where to go from here.

Thanks for listening,
Sam