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Hysteria is the old term for HPD?

Postby justagirl00 » Sun Jan 03, 2016 9:58 pm

I know people (especially women) used to get diagnosed with "Hysteria," as recently as the 70s, I guess before the HPD label came into being in the DSM, which was in the 80s, I think.

Was Hysteria a precursor to HPD?

Is it related to the somatiform or conversion disorders?
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Re: Hysteria is the old term for HPD?

Postby Fr4nz83 » Mon Jan 04, 2016 12:10 am

justagirl00 wrote:I know people (especially women) used to get diagnosed with "Hysteria," as recently as the 70s, I guess before the HPD label came into being in the DSM, which was in the 80s, I think.

Was Hysteria a precursor to HPD?

Is it related to the somatiform or conversion disorders?


For what relates to your first question: as far as I remember yes, it was a precursor. Now I don't think hysteria is used anymore - in fact it should be subsumed under HPD.
Have a look at this document (table 4.2):

http://www.universitypsychiatry.com/cli ... _PICPs.pdf

As for what relates to your second question: unfortunately I don't know:)
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Re: Hysteria is the old term for HPD?

Postby justagirl00 » Mon Jan 04, 2016 12:19 am

Hi Fr4nz83 :)

Thank you for linking that article. I actually read the whole thing yesterday, because I saw you had linked it on another thread. Fascinating article.

I've been doing some other googling since I posted and it does seem that Hysteria was the old word for HPD...or maybe its better to say, it was a previously used diagnostic label for disorders which would later be labelled as HPD. Although it could also apply to other somatic disorders? Its kind of confusing. So now I wonder if there is also some modern/current link between somatic/conversion disorders and HPD?

I know somebody who was diagnosed with Hysteria in the 70s, spent some time institutionalized. She does have a very HPD feel to her. She's preoccupied with her appearance and can act very seductive, flirtatious, at all times, even when its not appropriate. has some problems with intimacy and relationships. in other ways as well, definitely an HPD 'esque feel to her. So I wondered if the hysteria dx was an archaic HPD dx.

And according to that article, it seems there is in fact a link between these. Although not every HPD will have somatic sx or vice versa, but overlap is common, I guess.
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Re: Hysteria is the old term for HPD?

Postby HPD-Victim » Mon Jan 04, 2016 12:23 am

From what I know Hysteria is, for the most part, HPD + somatic/conversion symptoms.

In the DSM somatic/conversion symptoms are separated out since they don't just apply to Hysterics.

If you're interested read Hysteria by Christopher Bollas.

PS: Many HPD's suffer from somatic/conversion issues so Bollas argues that Hysteria still applies as a diagnosis despite the DSM.
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Re: Hysteria is the old term for HPD?

Postby justagirl00 » Mon Jan 04, 2016 12:28 am

That makes a lot of sense HPD-Victim. I was wondering if it was something like that and that gives me my answer.

I will see if I can locate that book.
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Re: Hysteria is the old term for HPD?

Postby HPD-Victim » Mon Jan 04, 2016 12:35 am

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Re: Hysteria is the old term for HPD?

Postby justagirl00 » Mon Jan 04, 2016 1:17 am

That's a good paper too HPD-Victim. Very good description too. fits like a glove.

Thank you for the help, you guys :)

I think this cleared it up.
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Re: Hysteria is the old term for HPD?

Postby Fr4nz83 » Mon Jan 04, 2016 3:06 pm

It is always a pleasure to have these kind of academic discussions ;)

Just out of curiosity, are you a non? :)
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Re: Hysteria is the old term for HPD?

Postby justagirl00 » Mon Jan 04, 2016 3:26 pm

Fr4nz83 wrote:It is always a pleasure to have these kind of academic discussions ;)

Just out of curiosity, are you a non? :)


While I was in therapy my therapist implied I have a PD and I agree with that. She didn't give details though. I think she didn't want to offend me, and at the time I would have been offended. To me it would have seemed like she was saying things were my fault. I've gradually become self aware the past 3 years and am starting to see how a lot of my life difficulties are coming from myself. Although i don't do it on purpose. Its learned behavior, how I was raised to be, etc.

This person I mentioned dx with hysteria is my relative who raised me so if she has HPD it seems very likely I'm on the spectrum too. Our personalities are almost identical.

I agree, I like these academic discussions too :)
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