What's rolling thru the head of an HPD/Cluster B?

I think you hit a good point with:

"most normal people have these social rules where they have to judge themselves based off of societal standards."

I think it's our understanding of these rules that makes us better at adapting with our disorder.
I feel some devious laughter comming on

Glad I could make someone besides myself laugh.

Our understanding of them? like what... that we don't have to abide by them? lol

alot of times I have to get inside someone's head to see the social rules... usually I just don't see them. like at all.

We don't have to abide by anything if we can get away with it!

The social rules seem to be almost the same for all the non's, it's what they grew up with. It's pretty universal so once you have gotten inside one's head you have gotten a glimpse of them all. I don't understand the rules either but I recognize them and in doing so I can recognize how better to manipulate. Just like that last sentence, I can recognize that a non reading that might be appalled but in my mind it's just the way my world is and I'm happy with it.

non's are just wierd.

they like care what other people think... lol. like I do, but not like the same as how non's do. I care how you treat me, I don't care what the societal standard is for how you SHOULD treat me. kind of difference.

I usually only get inside of females heads though, lol, I would feel like a homo getting inside a males... though every now and then I do it on accident. they're goofy, like I knew I was different as a kid, but how a non actually THINKS is wierd. they don't ACT wierd, but their thinking is off. at least as far as I'm concerned.

oh speaking of social rules being the same, lol, wait until you jump class lines. i hate to say it but social classes do exist. and knowing which schema their following is important the rules change.

i wonder if we can get a non to comment on this, I mean they have to recognize this right? or do they just interact inside the rules never really recognizing that they are there?

It's weird I agree. It's like they have a whole bunch of additional thought process' involved with the simplest things. I don't get why they can't seem to think in black and white, do or not do. It's like they have the need to justify everything they are thinking/doing to either themselves or the rest of the world or both. It seems really encumbered and bothersome.

You shouldn't shy away from getting inside a man’s head, it gives you better insight on what women see in the non's.

I know exactly what you mean about the social classes; I've watched this from within my own brain over the last 40 years and can see the distinct changes in thought process between not just the social classes but the generations within them as well. Maybe that's why I don't have time to have a complicated though process like the non's do. LOL!

I would like to see some non's comment on this as well. Also, some other HPD's both active and in various states of recovery. I think this could be a fun and enlightening thread.

Ok, I had a great laugh of what you two had to say! I am still laughing! lol

If "the norm" of this world was to be disordered thinking, with no one following social norms and social rules, what do you think the world would be like?

I would be interested in your comments.

I think I already know, what you are going to say.

With no one following social norms or rules then there wouldn't be anything to judge normal by.
Without a gauge of 'normalcy' it would be fun. For a while. Then it would get boring and the norms would just go about making rules again.

They do have there place and I recognize it like this:

Social norms and rules are something I equate to not having fun. They serve as an example for me to give to a norm as how much fun they could be having it they listen to me and break the rules. Without a guide there for me to use as something that is NOT fun then I would have no gauge to use for my argument to have fun by breaking the rules.

You can't have good without evil, if everything was good and perfect then after a while it would be boring as people forgot how to appreciate what they have when compared to what they used to have. I KNOW this line of reasoning makes sense to the other HPD's reading it.

Going back to the original and early posts, i would say their basic human needs and a 3 month life strategy. Basic human needs, means hungry = eating, tired = sleeping, thirsty = drinking, horny = sex, and personal phsyical comfort = a roof over ones head. I think they shall always be remarkable at taking care of number 1 in basic humans needs. The 3 months strategy is the serious of plans and events that shall excite enough to enjoy life anytime between now and the next 3 months. I do not get the impression that a long term plan is possible, or if it is planned is a bi-product of the current 3 month strategy, and it is unlikely to be adhered to unless it is related to basic human needs mentionned earlier. My few cents worth.

Regards,
Musician

I understand what your saying. "The Norm" don't have to break the rules, at someone elses expense to have fun. That is what you don't get.

HPD's have some great traits that are fun, that don't break the rules. It's why the non's fall in love with them. It is the underlying 'extreme" bad traits of munipulation, anger, lying, infedility etc....that override those good traits for the "Non". Thus make it no longer fun.

Your definition of fun and my definition of fun, are two very different things.

If no one followed social norms and rules, there would be caos and man would not survive. There would be no more "non"s, as the norm would be disordered. The "non's would not survive in a world like that and either would you.

If everyone thought like you, than you would have no one left to munipulate , no one faithful to you that you could cheat on and care, no friends that care, no one to work with...etc..and your world would fall apart and the world in general. You would have no fun, because you would have no rules to break, plus no one left to hurt.

We evovled by being social beast, exchanging thoughts and idea, to work together, have fun together and let our offspring grow in a stable loving stable enviroment, under social norms and rules. Eliminate all the rules and eliminate mankind.

There would be wars due to extreme anger, extreme munipulation, everyone out for themselves. no marriages, no real bonding, no empathry, no remorse, no family or no sense of commuinty life, ... no co-operation, no industry, no companies to work for, no control..just caos......it is not the way the world works and it is not the way man evolved. We elvolved through co-operation and working together, through work, love and play. Not always on the same page, but most of the time. The world needs basic's morals and social rules to survive. Without that it doesn't. So our thinking is not flawed, as you say. Yours is.

Most people mature, and have fun in mature ways, through sport, success, jokes, being happy, pleasure in thier accomplishments and those of others, looking after one another and truly enjoying each others company. It makes people happy and have fun doing it. Not munipulating people for pleasure and selfish reason, for thier own satifation.. I don't see too many happy HPD's on here, once they see they have these issues.

Ok..say you rule the world and are God.

What would your ten commandments be?

cheating is like some trait of HPD? you act like normal people dont cheat or something? I have never cheated and I am HPD, nor have I had the urge to (at least not yet).