What's rolling thru the head of an HPD/Cluster B?

spiralingconfusion wrote:Sympathy and empathy is what seperates humans from the rest of the animals. To be able to sypathize is a sense. Without it, you are an imcomplete person. Those of you state otherwise are (transparently) attepting to justify your actions as begin "superior" and (most) others clearly see that you are so inferior that you have to have to create a delusion fantasy world in order to cope with your condition.

Its a very vicious cycle...you need to create the feeling of self-importance b/c your disorder requires you to fee superior (in your own mind) no matter how inferior you may appear to others. Of course, you may fool others from time to time (no big feat...most societies are based on trusting other people, until they break that trust), but ultimately, you will be seen by them as inferior.

They will not gloat about this....and if youre not too obnoxious and transparently delusionally, they may feel sypathy...however, judging from what ive read so far, most people are more likely to take the "whatever" attitude with you as most poeple dont feel sympathy for those with exagerated sense of self-worth as much as "sucks to be you/ glad its not me" attitude.

I, however, feel a bit of sympath for you... only because I see how feeble and delusional you are...sympath in the way I would feel sympathy for a rabid squirrel - "Poor fella...but I aint going near him"

Quoted for stupidity.

Kane wrote:

spiralingconfusion wrote:Sympathy and empathy is what seperates humans from the rest of the animals. To be able to sypathize is a sense. Without it, you are an imcomplete person. Those of you state otherwise are (transparently) attepting to justify your actions as begin "superior" and (most) others clearly see that you are so inferior that you have to have to create a delusion fantasy world in order to cope with your condition.

Its a very vicious cycle...you need to create the feeling of self-importance b/c your disorder requires you to fee superior (in your own mind) no matter how inferior you may appear to others. Of course, you may fool others from time to time (no big feat...most societies are based on trusting other people, until they break that trust), but ultimately, you will be seen by them as inferior.

They will not gloat about this....and if youre not too obnoxious and transparently delusionally, they may feel sypathy...however, judging from what ive read so far, most people are more likely to take the "whatever" attitude with you as most poeple dont feel sympathy for those with exagerated sense of self-worth as much as "sucks to be you/ glad its not me" attitude.

I, however, feel a bit of sympath for you... only because I see how feeble and delusional you are...sympath in the way I would feel sympathy for a rabid squirrel - "Poor fella...but I aint going near him"

Quoted for stupidity.

Quoted for transparently attemtping to reinforce your own self-imposed feeling of superiority. "Anything that doesnt lead to a final conclusion stating that I am great (which I NEED to believe) is "stupid". Haha....like a small child - so much imagination. Ironically, your need to feel superior is what makes you so inferior. Sad. Sucks to be you, glad its not me.

spiralingconfusion wrote:Sympathy and empathy is what seperates humans from the rest of the animals.

Assertion, not an arguement.

To be able to sypathize is like a sense. Without it, you are an incomplete person.

How? What makes it like a sense? Does it provide you with information about your environment? How are you 'incomplete without it? Too many assertions...

Those of you that state otherwise are (transparently) attepting to justify yourselves as begin "superior" and (most) others clearly see that you are so inferior that you have to have to create a delusional fantasy world in order to cope with your condition.

Whoa, that sentence was so poorly worded that I can't even tell if it was an 'Ad Hominem' arguementative fallacy or not. You seem to be jumping to conclusions. How does not indulging in sympathy equate to living in a delusional fantasy world? Perhaps it can, but to suggest that it always does is a sweeping generalisation (another fallacy of logic).

Its a very vicious cycle...you need to create the feeling of self-importance b/c your disorder requires you to feel superior (in your own mind) no matter how inferior you may appear to others. Of course, you may fool others from time to time (no big feat...most societies are based on trusting other people, until they break that trust), but ultimately, you will be seen by them as inferior.

I'm going to leave the particulars alone for this paragraph and just point out that it has nothing to do with sympathy. If you feel it is related, try tying it back to the theme of your rant at the end of the paragraph.

They will not gloat about this....and if youre not too obnoxious and transparently delusionally, they may feel sypathy...however, judging from what I've read so far, most people are more likely to take the "whatever" attitude with you as most poeple dont feel sympathy for those with an exagerated sense of self-worth as much as "sucks to be you/ glad its not me" attitude.

So if they don't feel sympathy for me, does that mean they too are living in a delusional fantasy world to prop up their imagined granduer? Will those that do not feel sympathy for them also be destined for the same fate? Somebody burned you horrendously didn't they?

I, however, feel a bit of sympath for you... only because I see how feeble and delusional you are...sympathy in the way I would feel sympathy for a rabid squirrel - "Poor fella...but I aint going near him"

Ok to sum up, you feel sympathy for me not feeling sympathy, because it means I am shockingly insecure. However, people who also may not feel sympathy for me for the same reason are not shockingly insecure. No reason why, however, this is just how it works according to spirallingconfusion.

I must say your tag is quite apt for your arguementative style. I am beginning to think that you entire post is not actually a collection of logical fallacies, so much as a giant masterwork Ad-hominem. Frankly, I am impressed

spiralingconfusion wrote:

Quoted for transparently attemtping to reinforce your own self-imposed feeling of superiority. "Anything that doesnt lead to a final conclusion stating that I am great (which I NEED to believe) is "stupid". Haha....like a small child - so much imagination. Ironically, your need to feel superior is what makes you so inferior. Sad. Sucks to be you, glad its not me.

Seems to me like a lack of sympathy for Kane on your behalf. Unfortunately, according to your own theory, you are also terribly insecure, and living in a fantasy world. Sucks to be- wait... I feel sorry for you man

Hmm...i think you are mistake about (i) the bases of my theory and (ii) my sypathy for Kane.

(i) the source of the insecurity is the disease...the need to feel superior...particularly the need to feel validated by external factors and stimuli. A secondary contention is that is doesnt really matter whether (to a rational mind) such external factors actually do validate your "superiority", the diseased mind will rationalize, distort and twist reality into their fantasy-land view of reliaty" that serve to feed their needs.

(ii) I said "sucks to be you", which shows that I do feel a least a little sorry for him. I cerntainly take no glee in being superior to the diseased (similarly, I also take no joy in feeling supierior to those suffering from down syndrome). I believe my rabid squirrel analogy works (yet again). i feel sorry for him, but that doesnt mean I am going to risk my well-being to help him. If it was a family-member (or a pet squirrel), I may feel the need to help to my own detriment (to a degree). Perhaps i should not find amusement with certain aspects of the condition, but i promise it is not the condition as a whole as much as specific instances/manifestations of the condition. I admit, that may be a bit insensitive. I am still struggling with the difference between plain old pomp and the state-of-mind of the diseased. I will try to feel sorrier for the diseased as it seems like the humane thing to do, though, at times, it feels like a waste of my energy.

As for you accusing me of living in a fantasy world... I will choose not to pay heed of such criticisms from those that are (admittedly) sufferers of diseases which do not allow you to fully grasp the difference between reality and fantasy.

digital.noface wrote: Somebody burned you horrendously didn't they?

Speaking of "ad-hominen."

digital.noface wrote:

spiralingconfusion wrote:

Quoted for transparently attemtping to reinforce your own self-imposed feeling of superiority. "Anything that doesnt lead to a final conclusion stating that I am great (which I NEED to believe) is "stupid". Haha....like a small child - so much imagination. Ironically, your need to feel superior is what makes you so inferior. Sad. Sucks to be you, glad its not me.

Seems to me like a lack of sympathy for Kane on your behalf. Unfortunately, according to your own theory, you are also terribly insecure, and living in a fantasy world. Sucks to be- wait... I feel sorry for you man

Yes, one would wonder what the hell he is doing on these forums anyway. And while I would like to be one, I am not an NPD.

BEWARE THE INTERMITTENT REINFORCEMENT- it effs you up- that is how Cluster B's hook you- it is how gambling hooks you. It is more powerful than consistency. -

more wisdom today. yes, it is more powerful than a constant, realiable pattern of behaviour. but, in a demeaning way. like a mind f*ck. no pattern is evident except that there is no clear pattern of human behaviour. the only clear pattern is this...

YOU MUST NEVER, EVER REALLY SHOW AN HPD LOVE. IF YOU FEEL LOVE FOR AN HPD YOU MUST SQUELCH IT AND BURY IT AND NEVER SHOW IT. YOU MUST ACT LIKE YOU CARE JUST 'SORT-OF' BUT YOU COULD CERTAINLY LIVE WITHOUT THEM AND DROP THEM LIKE THEY WERE NOTHING BUT A TRICK. THIS IS THE ONLY THING THAT TURNS THEM ON!!! IT IS A POWERFUL APHRODISIAC!!!

treat them like they are expendable, pour on the charm the way a pimp would do to his ho, then pull the rug out from under them, and tease them the way you would tease a geek in the schoolyard. this is their idea of a love. this is their 'saviour'.

sounds like a nightmare to me. i say take all of these experiences with a severe hpd as a lesson learned about the manipulative=evil side of human nature. turn your back on an hpd when they have hurt you to the point where you can not take it anymore. turn on your heel and NEVER look back. this can be the only true form of revenge.

remember: self- respect is also another powerful aphrodisiac.

Thanks for the reply soulsearch. It seems that Digital and Kane wanna spar here. Digital, what is that -- a pair of whitey tighties on your face?
- you are so annoying..why not go out in the real world and f#ck w/people..it's so easy to be a dick on the internet/email/etc. Get some nads, turn off the PC, step out the door and try to be a human.
-- there , are you happy U got some negative attention? Glad that you are annoying people who are here trying to get info about HPD. If you're an NPD why not go to that forum? Too dull there..nobody will fight w/you?
I will expect a predictable reply with some British word used in it ..like "whilst.".. used in a dismissive tone that really endears others to you.
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bite off hack-

rumin8r9 wrote:Thanks for the reply soulsearch. It seems that Digital and Kane wanna spar here. Digital, what is that -- a pair of whitey tighties on your face?
- you are so annoying..why not go out in the real world and f#ck w/people..it's so easy to be a dick on the internet/email/etc. Get some nads, turn off the PC, step out the door and try to be a human.
-- there , are you happy U got some negative attention? Glad that you are annoying people who are here trying to get info about HPD. If you're an NPD why not go to that forum? Too dull there..nobody will fight w/you?
I will expect a predictable reply with some British word used in it ..like "whilst.".. used in a dismissive tone that really endears others to you.
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bite off hack-

First of all, I am not british, I am Australian. Second of all... lick my nuts.