Question for an HPD, mylife if possible

I have been reading a lot of mylifes posts and she sounds a lot like my ex.

Lets say you were at my house and i had one cookie left in my cookie jar when you arrived. And you were hungry and wanted a snack. I came in the kitchen just after you and wanted a cookie also. it is gone because you had obviously beaten me to it. I confront you and ask you if you took the last cookie. you deny it. WHY? knowing it does not matter and you know you did and i know you did, what is the point?

My ex did not ever get into it over a cookie but i was trying to make it simple. i have caught her lying about insignificant things. And my question to her always was why not tell the truth, it does not matter, it is not that big of a deal. much like the cookie incident above.

Well people with Cluster B Personality Disorders are pathological liars and can't help that they lie as it is just part of having the disorder.

I talked to an HPD about this very thing and she indicated that sometimes she would lie about stuff and later wonder why she did that which indicates to me that its just a condition out of their control ie once again pathological lying that comes with being an HPD.

Perhaps not every cluster b suffers from this but from what I've read most of them do.

so basically i can quit quit laying awake asking why to this and why to that? There is no answer to the why's? It is what it is, and they dont even know?

Well there are answers for other aspects of HPD but the lying about the little things even is all a part of Cluster B pathological lying which is largely out of their control.

Even if they know when they are lying they don't know why they are doing it well at least about the little things that is. The big things like lying about cheating they know they are doing and its to protect themelves and their relationship with their target as not cheating to protect it usually isn't an option for them or even deeply considered.

I'm sure most of the remaining answers you seek can be found in my post history or the book Emotional Vampires or several books on the borderline personality by James F. Masterson as he believes HPD is a part of BPD.

As most doctors I think he rightly claims it to be a lesser version of BPD but still the same mental structure all these women possess even if that structure is manifested in different ways.

bountyman, if you're still here..I have been lying in bed for a year trying to understand my ex..who is at least partially HPD..and I have to keep repeating ' you can't argue with a sick mind' to myself.. or repeating that you cannot rationalize with the irrational. It doesn't make sense..because.. HPDs or others..are not 'normal' and rational and sane.

bountyman, if you're still here..I have been lying in bed for a year trying to understand my ex..who is at least partially HPD..and I have to keep repeating ' you can't argue with a sick mind' to myself.. or repeating that you cannot rationalize with the irrational. It doesn't make sense..because.. HPDs or others..are not 'normal' and rational and sane.

HPDs are certainly sane. At least the last time I checked. Hold on, let me ask the evil monkey that lives in my closet and glares at me...
yea, he says i'm good!

it astonishes me how ppl just won't recognize cruel intentions for cruel intentions!

hello lostHPD,

well not to say I'm correct, but I've been here on the planet for 2x as long as you have and have come to believe that the natural state of a human is goodness and Love...howerver some people are unfortunately corrupted by others -or are born w/some chemical imbalance or mess up their heads w/drugs and alch.

So if you're enjoying your life as a raging a-hole that hurts and manipulates people and shouts to the world 'i'm an insecure idiot'
then I'd label that as a waste.and not worthy of compassion...evil.

In the most extreme PD cases you get people that like Ted Bundy and Jeffrey Dahmer, etc. To me they aren't worth a lot to society...it's fascinating in a scientific way how those kinds of abherrations occur..and sensing some of the energy behind some w/PDs comments I would decide that maybe just like w/Bundy and Dahmer-we'd just be better off without them..what a waste of time and pain and energy and a danger to those around them.

If there is no remorse or self-control and the person continues to harm others..people nearby need to try and force it on them..and if that doesn't work..then well- they're evil -may as well forget them in some dingy brick fortress in the country.

They put down crazy dogs since they're nothing but a danger, so is it that different with people? The way some PD people seem to regard others it doesn't seem to be that far of a stretch.
== I am sensing a lot of pompous anger when I'm trying to understand things and relate w/others that have been under the spell of --jerks on the outside -weak souls on the inside-or maybe just pure evil.
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If there is no remorse or self-control and the person continues to harm others..people nearby need to try and force it on them..and if that doesn't work..then well- they're evil -may as well forget them in some dingy brick fortress in the country.

excuse me do i do have self-control. i can stop myself from lying but i see no need to, i don't lie to hurt others more in THEIR favor, and if i don't feel i'm doing something wrong, why stop? it's good will not evil

I have much more self control than the average, only except when it comes to getting my NPD and HPD supplies: other sins are not something i usually indulge in; esp. if they will hurt ppl, since i know i do that, uncontrollably i guess, already

i sense i am evil because of my destructive motives and lust for power and glory; i have also been told by "close" family and friends that I manipulate them with my emotions and that I cannot stop lying

i recognize that these are cluster B symptoms, and i DID NOT CHOOSE THEM, they happened to me during my tumultuous life...and right now i am not in a position to change them, and am reliant on them...in that THEY ARE ME...my PDs are who i am...just written down on paper by a group of psychologists (basically)

I dont think you could recognize evil if it was staring you in the face.