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what exactly is a 'savior situation'?

Postby target_of_histrionic » Tue Aug 29, 2006 5:17 am

what exactly is a savior situation? is that the person you hope to meet in the future that you believe will be your savior. example: the one person in the world who can inspire you to feel what you believe to be passionate love?
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Postby KontrollerX » Tue Aug 29, 2006 5:23 am

The saviour to an HPD is the absolute perfect human being that will make them feel the love they've always been chasing but never been able to hang onto, protect them and take care of them forever and all that good stuff basically.

Too bad HPD's in their natural state do not realize such a person ie a perfect person does not exist though they believe it so strongly that it continues their cycle of searching for the new love that is sure to be the one but never fully materializes.
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Postby rumin8r9 » Tue Aug 29, 2006 5:43 am

makes sense too since in reality the love you feel w/a person is allegedly simply the (God) love within you reflecting back at you..so if you have no love within you ..you aren't gonna feel it- that's why my 'love' of an HPD was an illusion of what I hoped for....I never gazed into my HPDs eyes and felt 'it'. It's kinda funny but I had thought that my HPD needs an exorcism to remove all her negative energy so she could shine- like a diamond that needs a polish.
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Postby digital.noface » Tue Aug 29, 2006 8:42 am

rumin8r9 wrote:makes sense too since in reality the love you feel w/a person is allegedly simply the (God) love within you reflecting back at you..so if you have no love within you ..you aren't gonna feel it- that's why my 'love' of an HPD was an illusion of what I hoped for....I never gazed into my HPDs eyes and felt 'it'. It's kinda funny but I had thought that my HPD needs an exorcism to remove all her negative energy so she could shine- like a diamond that needs a polish.
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Hold on, I'm sorry. God, love, reflections, negative energy, excorcism? 'Love' is a mass delusion purported by the one uncontestable authority in our lives, society (Kind of like 'respect'). To be fair it also has a tangible form (well, one beyond that of a social construct), which is by no circumstances 'mystical' *shudder*. Love also exists as a label. The label we give to the set of feelings we experience upon reaching an intimate familiarlarity and/or trust in an individual (Real or imagined). This is why people are so easily manipulated. What they believe they are feeling, they are in fact feeling. The only thing which dicerns true love from a lie (a good lie) is the tenure.
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Wow!

Postby PersonOutThere11 » Tue Aug 29, 2006 2:54 pm

Wow, everybody wants to know about the savior?!!! Well, that;s understandable.
I don't like the word perfect. Even though the savior is perfect to the HPD, that does not mean society views them as perfect. Also, perfect somehow implies good.
So, the savior would be just as seductive to the HPD as the HPD is to everyone else they meet (in one way or another).
Well this may sound kind of vague but i guess i can try to describe my imagined savior.
He's this all-powerful man with an aura of evil, due to the fact that he is evil though the HPD senses under it all he just wants love. The HPD' narcissistic side sees themself in the savior except, more unbridled evil and power, which is what makes them all hot-and-bothered anyway. (maybe that's just me ) :oops: But yea. It's not that's he's perfect physically, I don't even have an idea of him that way, he's just a figure...human-shaped. Well, I see him as some kind of evil, powerful, belligerent ruler whom everyone else worships, is seduced by, and caters to. He also is like a Roman emperor in that he could cause pain and death to anyone (except me i think, never part of the vision) and that only brings him a sense of more power.
So, very evil but thus very seductive, forbidden and totally unescapable.
(This probly relates to a mental childhood crisis with an older, sexualizes, and forbidden figure in some way)...hope that helped?!
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Postby rumin8r9 » Tue Aug 29, 2006 3:05 pm

(ignoring your negative smugness again digitalnoface)

I agree that love in the "b.s." sense is a societal load of crap. The construct that's emulated in most movies and songs and commercials for diamonds.

I was referring to the kind that has tenure. Unconditional love-like the beauty you sense in a flower..the amazement of the complexity in natur...a bird the looks at you or a cat that gazes into your eyes and you just "know" - it is all a reflection.....I feel that the HPD has a 'block' and yes..the holy spirit - cannot work its magic and connect them w/the universe.
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Postby PersonOutThere11 » Tue Aug 29, 2006 3:12 pm

for sure
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Postby digital.noface » Wed Aug 30, 2006 7:42 am

Interesting idea, but I'm afraid it is a little too...nonsensical? No thats not it. Um...Horseshit! Yes, thats it! Relax! I'm playing up to the smugness (The smugness that you acknowledged in you attempt to ignore it in your last post).

You seem to be confusing, or deliberately blending, things which you percieve to be extremely good with love. While that list of beautiful things you gave was indeed beautiful, and rather poetic, none of the things on that list was related to the feelings you get in a relationsip of shared intimacy and trust. Perhaps comparable, but not related.

Likewise, while I'm sure 'the holy spirit' represents these things to you, the subjectivity of opinion truly reveals itself in the fact that it represents the opposite to me (Hate). While my evaluation of 'the holy spirit' is no more valid than yours, the fact that an alternative interpretation can be reasonable drawn by myself and so many others illustrates it's failure to meet the minimum standards of objective consistency required for an accurate accosciation with something as real as love (In the 'real' sense of the word).

Note also that definitons will wreak absolute hell upon any deliberation of the 'meaning' of the word love. As such, allow me to define. I am not talking about any BS trancendent 'love' that echos through all things and is epitomised by the human spirit and the message of Christ. That is crap. I speak of the real sensations experienced by an individual when they hold an intimate and trusting attachment to another person or thing (I believe it can be sourced from certain activities, and even animals, though I'm not so sure about objects). The second 'real' definition of love is that of the one we inherit from society. Whilst it is (in content) indeed BS, it is also real (In existence).
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Postby ewriter » Sun Sep 10, 2006 9:04 pm

well, i found this in another forum and think it hits:

the "sociopath´s" (HPD, NPD, ASPD, BPD) strategy is to take advantage of the altruistic leanings in other people by pretending to have similar altruistic motives themselves.

couldn´t have said better ...
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Postby KontrollerX » Sun Sep 10, 2006 9:34 pm

Hmmm could you PM me a link to that forum or post it here ewriter?

I'm always interested in finding more forums about this subject. :P
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