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Self-objectification (sub-human attitudes)

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Self-objectification (sub-human attitudes)

Postby coneyislandking » Fri Nov 01, 2013 5:34 pm

Since I was very young, I have had a fascination with characters in fiction who are androids, specifically pretty female androids. I have always been enticed by the thought of being so beautiful, but only having one function. I'm thinking of a specific anime, where this girl, who I suppose is a robot, goes into this tank of water and is attached to all of these chords, and then the spaceship she is in works.

I guess what I'm saying, is that I equally love and dread the idea of being a device or an accessory.. of only being someone when I'm needed, of not being able to survive or not supposed to survive without a purpose of serving someone.

I don't really know what I'm saying, because it's not a particularly masochistic thought, and I'm afraid that's how it sounds.

I would love being a synthetic human who was only used for romance and companionship, but who was not capable of making decisions. I would not want genitals, if I were a robot, just a blank pelvis, like a Barbie doll, but one that could change to fit the desires of my owner.

A song that really adequately sums up how I feel about this, I guess, is Human by Ellie Goulding. I also wrote a song about the concept called I Am An Android. I will share the lyrics to both if you want.

I am a test-tube child, so I guess a sense of being some kind of organic android has always been lingering in my mind. I never had a dad or father figure, which may be what makes me feel disposable or like a fixture.

Can anyone relate?
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Re: Self-objectification (sub-human attitudes)

Postby xdude » Sat Nov 02, 2013 11:29 am

coney -

I cannot relate personally, but I do think that the desire to be objectified is a lot more common then is politically correct to acknowledge. I think I partially understand the appeal as well, but what is often not discussed is the presumed 'terms'. What I mean is this -

Inanimate objects can be treated like objects without any thought given to the objects feelings. They can be replaced by another object; objects can be locked away out of boredom; objects can be ignored; objects can be broken and thrown in the trash; etc.

From my own experience then, when people have desires to be treated like an object, they often still have a lot of assumed terms that they'll be treated like a human with feelings too.
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Re: Self-objectification (sub-human attitudes)

Postby crystal_richardson_ » Sun Nov 03, 2013 9:42 pm

I wouldn't say I have such a fascination.

But I do objectify, in the sense of denying my feelings and the other person's, to avoid intimacy/bonding, which I am afraid of.

I think this is a very general term (objectification) that can carry a number of meanings.

What they have in common though is denying some or all of someone's personhood and personness.

It could be denying someone's worth, so treating them like sh*t as if it won't affect them (like an object)

Denying other parts of them.

It's related to disrespect I think, but not in relation to someone's status or a particular role, but their personness and humanness and what needs/characteristics that entails for psychological well-being.

But as I said, it can be employed (mutually) to in a manner that is not harmful, and even protective.

I agree with xdude that having a notion of self-objectification implies an idea of being treated differently, not like an 'object' (although such terms may not be used)

although I wouldn't say necessarily an expectation or experience of which

one can learn about others ways of being treated, without having any experience of them.

although if one has been objectified all their life--disrespected--they may not be able to 'absorb' other treatment, and so no value will be attached to it.

in general, we tend to like/prefer what is familiar. to someone who has - from an external point of view - been objectified in several significant respects to the point where it is their norm they may prefer/expect this.
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