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Question about HPD's as pet owners

Postby twin_a » Wed May 01, 2013 5:35 pm

I have a question out there for people with HPD and how they are with pets. Do you like pets? Are you good with taking care of them?

I'm just wondering because my sister (who I think might have some form of HPD) has a very long pattern of short term pet ownership. Mostly dogs. Growing up, I had 1 cat who I took care of from kindergarten through his death when I was in college. My sister went through 3 dogs in that time - they were pets my parents got for her (because I was supposedly the 'cat person' and she was the 'dog person'). But she rarely took care of the dogs after a few months and then they became a family responsibility until they were given away.

This sort of pattern continued later on as well - when we were in college and living together, my sister and I decided to adopt two cats (this was a few months after my first cat died) - at first they were "our cats" but after a few months, they were "my cats" (unless someone came over who was admiring the cats, then they were "ours" again). My sister seemed incredibly resentful of them and every time I went away, she made me arrange for someone else to take care of them. We separated in graduate/professional school - during that time, she got a puppy that she was supposed to be raising with a boyfriend. They soon fought about who would take care of him and eventually she gave the dog back to the pound. A few years later, she adopted a cat but less than a year later, the cat was living at her next boyfriend's place. The excuse was that she was moving in with a roommate who was allergic, but then why did she get the cat in the first place? When she broke up with her boyfriend, he took the cat with him and she complained about it, but didn't do much to try and get him back.

Then a few years later, I found myself living with her again and I still had my two cats. She continued to complain about them and made me give them to someone to care for if I ever went away. Once in a while if I was away and the cats were home, I would come home to some story about how she had a sudden and dramatic allergic reaction to the cats and had to go to the emergency room. But I've never actually seen evidence of these allergies. Because our apartment didn't have screens in the windows, I bought those screens you can install to put up - it was a 20 second job to put them in. She complained ALL the time about what a pain in the ass it was to have to put in those screens in her bedroom windows so she rarely did. Eventually, one of my cats went out on the window ledge through her bedroom - he ended up falling 4 stories and died a horrible death. My sister has never expressed even an inkling of remorse about that. If she had ever said "wow, I'm sorry I never put those screens in", I could have forgiven her, but somehow she made it all out to be my fault and something the cat deserved. I'll never get over that.

Now she is living with a few roommates and one of them has a dog that she sometimes refers to as "her dog". I think this will be okay because ultimately, she is not the one responsible for the dog - she only takes care of him/plays with him when she wants to and it's her roommates job to see after the day to day reality of pet ownership.

My question is does this seem like a normal pattern for HPDs? I don't think my sister is cruel to animals - in many ways she is an animal lover just like I am. But her ability to care for a pet seems to be limited, and she is always mean about any pet I might have. I'm also still really disturbed about how my cat died because she refused to put in a window screen.
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Re: Question about HPD's as pet owners

Postby masquerade » Thu May 02, 2013 12:07 am

I always related better to animals than I did to people. Animals loved me unconditionally, and I found that I empathised with them more easily than with people, but I can imagine that other people with HPD may react differently. Some people with HPD are prone to impulsiveness and they're overly concerned with impressions, so if they decided to take on a pet without considering the long term consequences, and were influenced initially by the IMPRESSION the animal made on them as a cute and cuddly ball of fluff, they may at a later stage find they become overwhelmed with the responsibilities and realities of owning a pet. Pets can tie a person down and limit their lifestyle, and this may not sit too well with a person with HPD who likes to live for the moment as a free spirit, going off on yet another adventure at a moment's notice. They may not fully appreciate the time and attention that an animal needs from them and because of a lack of empathy, they may give the animal away or even abandon it if they also have ASPD traits.

I'm of the opinion that there are two types of people with HPD - those who are too immature to own an animal responsibly, and those who may substitute the love of an animal for the love of a person, forming a very exclusive bond with it. I fell into the latter category.
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Re: Question about HPD's as pet owners

Postby twin_a » Thu May 02, 2013 4:40 pm

that makes sense - now that I think about it, I used to have a friend who was probably HPD (she has a lot in common with my sister). This friend was OBSESSED with my cats - especially the one cat who was around after the other one fell out my sister's window. She was often the one who cared for them when I was going away and my sister didn't want them in the house (good point about how she might have felt 'tied' down by them - she would often claim she shouldn't be responsible for them while I was gone in case she felt like going away - she never went anywhere as far as I know..). I would often think my friend was a little too obsessive and attached to my cat - but perhaps she was going in the other direction from my sis - seeing the cat as a substitute for the human love she felt she wasn't getting enough of.

I guess I should just think of my sister's attitude towards pets as a reflection of her immaturity and inability to accept responsibility for another creature. I"m still really bothered by it - but then again, I am going through many wtf moments from the last 15 years or so and just trying to process..
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Re: Question about HPD's as pet owners

Postby orion13213 » Fri May 03, 2013 5:46 pm

Neglected and abandoned animals could simply be an extension of the disposability of human relationships that some HPDs exhibit, or some other PD laking empathy. Or maybe just stupidity and lack of responsibility by whomever.
One occaisionally hears of 'animal lovers' in the news that have 10, 20, 30, sometimes more cats, dogs, rabbits, reptiles, or birds, obviously far too many animals to properly care for. Then, after years of complaints by neighbors and citations by the Humane Society and local law enforcement, they default on the mortgage, lock up the house...and simply abandon all the animals inside. Animal control and local PD then discovering a gruesome scene....
Even though the owner didn't beat the animals, obviously no true bonds occurred. The animals, dependent on the owner, could have merely constituted a source of supply, and were abandoned when the supply project became too expensive in terms of cost of food, or the owner's infamous reputation or legal problems.
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Re: Question about HPD's as pet owners

Postby thekyle55 » Fri May 03, 2013 6:47 pm

My ex loves animals, and would come home with random ones or beg me until I let her get one. Then, after about two weeks, the new wore off and it was up to me to take care of it. So no, she didn't do any better with them than she does in personal relationships.
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