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shallow emotions that shift rapidly

Postby Guest » Tue Apr 18, 2006 1:28 pm

could someone please explain what this means. does it mean they're happy one minute and sad the next? what does 'shallow emotion' mean?
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Postby kjacob » Tue Apr 18, 2006 7:02 pm

Once my ex hpd phoned me crying uncontrollably (he was having problems with his family of origin): "please, please come, I want to die". Ok, I said without any objection, and I begun to dress quite quickly. After ten minutes I was warming the engine of my car, ready to go. He phoned me again, with a very detached voice "don't come, I need to be alone". "What?" "Forgive me" and then he closed the call.
When I was back home, after half an hour, he phoned me again, all cheerful, "oh, $#%^, let's go party somewhere". I was stunned - at the time, I didn't know him well.
We went to some bar, then he insisted a lot to come to sleep at my place. But we were going to sleep, he decided that after all he preferred to sleep alone, and went away.

Some time later, I told me that he had HPD with some borderline flavor. In hindsight, the shifting moods aren't the worst defect of a HPD but can really make your head spin.
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Postby Guest » Tue Apr 18, 2006 7:59 pm

I couldnt imagine knowing someone like that... just out of curiousity... why do people even continue to engage with HPD's??? When they obviously see whats happening... that they are rapidly crazy.
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Postby kjacob » Tue Apr 18, 2006 8:01 pm

Yep, but on the other hand they can make feel you incredibly loved. It's their winning ace and maybe their best act. Or not?
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Postby KontrollerX » Tue Apr 18, 2006 11:59 pm

In the book Emotional Vampires it says an old therapists trick for dealing with manipulative crying is to simply ignore the crying and hand your partner/friend a kleenex and go on talking about whatever it is you want to talk to them about. Do not inquire about the reason for the crying or try to comfort them in any way for it other than giving them the kleenex.

I believe the books author told the readers this because sociopaths like much of the book talks about want an emotional reaction out of you with their crocodile tears.

That is the entire reason for the tears so yeah do not give them a reaction.

"I couldnt imagine knowing someone like that... just out of curiousity... why do people even continue to engage with HPD's??? When they obviously see whats happening... that they are rapidly crazy."

They throw all of your good qualities back at you subtley so that you feel as though you've met your soulmate.

The first love like an addicts first high is always the best.

You spend the rest of the relationship looking for that perfect person again like the drug addict searches for their first high with more drugs.

In both cases neither the first love or the first high feeling ever comes again.

This is just one reason.

Another reason certain people fall deeply in love with sociopaths like this is because their parents raised them with intermittent reinforcement where the parent shows you love if you do something they want but withhold it if you don't.

An HPD and other sociopaths do the same thing.

So in addition to the soulmate con many of our relationships with histrionics are unconscious attempts on our parts to work out issues with mom and dad.
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Postby kjacob » Wed Apr 19, 2006 12:42 am

So I loved a fake? It was just all a fake? No affection, no friendship, no love? :cry:
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Postby KontrollerX » Wed Apr 19, 2006 12:49 am

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news kjacob but to answer your latest question yes it was fake and yes there was no real genuine affection or love.

At least for you.

The HPD on the other hand extracted the much needed emotions from you and was fully served and rewarded by your efforts.

Sorry again to have to tell you this.
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Postby kjacob » Wed Apr 19, 2006 1:40 am

Oh well, probably you're right. An amazingly good fake, but a fake after all.
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Postby nvsofme » Wed Apr 19, 2006 2:44 am

When Im alone... as sitting here but not typing... my mind is blank... I cant think anything and frustrating... hard to explain... Im on the computer but I cant think of anything that I want to do.

Ill look around the room and see if something makes me think of anything... nothing. I just stare at the wall, or look out the window... nothing triggers anything. I have no true self.. so I look at magazines... or something that does grab my wonderful attention!

I have no personal thought... like a gap... or a wall blocking whatever is inside maybe... I have no self.... have to listen to music constantly... or reading... tv, movies, or just doing something!

Those get me worked up... and everything is a much better... feel alive and productive.

Every once in a while when something or someone reminds me of something whether a past girlfriend... or friend... I start to remember a few things and then.... randomly... its just disappears... like it didnt happen and Im back to my usual.

I call people or send them messages over AIM... just because... just to take my mind off the nothingness.... or someone calls me... or messages me its relief and thoroughly enjoy it much.

When I go out with friends or whoever Im always on agreeance... most of the time... unless something better pops up... and I will jump on that right away.

I definently not particularly enjoy serious people... some people just too serious... they not much fun to associate with.... although serious is ok some of the time.. dont know how to explain.

I typed whole lot nothingness... cool huh.. that is just special!!
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Postby KontrollerX » Wed Apr 19, 2006 3:19 am

nvs are you trying to tell us that you believe yourself to be a male HPD or you just commenting on how you think? :P
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