Are guys MORE attracted to HPDs than ever before?

I just thought of something...

(Note: I am NOT reducing HPD to stereotypical femininity; there is more to the disorder than that)

So I was thinking, due to the influx of women into the workplace over the last couple of decades, and women assuming traditionally masculine roles, in many instances out of necessity, resulting in a sort of masculinization of women to adjust, could there be a higher demand for or interest in HPDs on the part of men because their style is slowly becoming something from a bygone era - to which men are perhaps innately most attracted to - that is, femininity?

Crystal wrote: men are perhaps innately most attracted to - that is, femininity

Yes..and nothing wrong with femininity, but I don't mean a Stepford wife.

But do you think men are more interested in HYPER feminine women today as a reaction to women in general becoming more masculine?

apparently waist-hip ratio is actually the main key factor. lol

Crystal wrote: do you think men are more interested in HYPER feminine women today as a reaction to women in general becoming more masculine

Hyper no...extreme no

but nothing wrong with an attractive, smart, confident, humorous..."feminine" sexy curvy women, regardless of her status in life. Of course they attract men. Men haven't changed. They like what they always liked.

Men don't look down on sexually curvy attractive womene, but extreme feminist do? Playboy hasn't changed much, men still buy it. IE To an extreme feminist, I am sure they are disgusted by it and still feel it is degrading to women. That's our "new culture"

Hmmmm.. am sure that there are many women attracted to looking at guys with six packs too. Good for them!! Not too many men complaining about it . Masculists? No such thing...! lol

Talking female HPDs and male heterosexual Nons, agreed; men are sexually, initially attracted to what they always have been attracted to. Male sexual attraction is probably hard wired for most men, in the reptilian, or lower part of the brain stem, and the vision to brain genetic base was probably laid down and reinforced via natural selection at least hundreds of thousands of years ago.
All I can tell you is that when my HPD friends flirted with me, my eyes opened up, then my vision got sharper, my pulse went up, it felt like something pulled the air out of my chest, I breathed in deeply, my ears began to ring, and it felt like something hot got injected into my brain, near the 'apricot' (coincidentally, the preferred target of snipers going for a rear head shot ). Then the vague ticklish feeling in my navel, and the other things, left to your imagination.

As the months went by, apparently normal from what I see and hear, I experienced the usual progress of the Non heterosexual male brain, after the initial sexual attraction: infatuation, romantic love, then real love, when the work starts.

If you look at the fleshy nude women in those paintings of old, you might conclude that the men of those times preferred a different female physique, But maybe those were the only female images they had, due to the diet and an aversion to exercise back then, and if you could transport those guys into today, would they too go nuts over a modern HPD physique? Even if you look at Marilyn Monroe and the other bombshells of the 1950s and 1960s, they had more body fat than the ideal female body of today.

So actually, in my opinion what has changed is the HPD woman's body: down through the centuries she has always been a keen observer of what is 'hot' in her day, what will bring attention and validation to her. Her psychological structure - her HPD traits and behaviors, her ability to 'look into' men's minds and manipulate them for supply, has probably been fairly constant, but probably really started to get noticed once tradition began to give way to modern and post-modern culture. As the boundaries for acceptable female sexual behavior and appearance were trimmed back to where they are today, she was given the liberty and encouraged, along with all women, to become more and more attractive, erogenous, and erotic.

One possible problem: for her Non sisters, the liberation of female sexual behavior and appearances became this new form of social power: sexual capital. But is it the same for those who suffer from a little understood condition called Histrionic Personality Disorder, now being pushed back even further into obscurity, with its elimination from DSM V?

Aren't histrionics kind of tomboys ? Obviously they act feminine because that's whats attractive, but they also tend to hang around alot of men and adopt this "i'm with the guys" way of acting. Yes?

dkdk999 wrote:Aren't histrionics kind of tomboys ? Obviously they act feminine because that's whats attractive, but they also tend to hang around alot of men and adopt this "i'm with the guys" way of acting. Yes?

That's an interesting question, one that alludes to a certain stage of psychosexual development. I wonder if some were classic tomboys, somewhere around ages 8-12, only to blossom later into the uber feminine. Maybe some of the ladies could tell us if at one point in their childhoods they wore blue jeans, went fishing, and caught frogs with the boys.
It seems to be true, as adult women they tend to prefer male company, and sometimes don't relate all that well to other women, but by this time their wardrobes usually have a lot more than blue jeans (nor do they seem to like to catch frogs anymore, but I could be wrong ).

That would seem to be the case for me.

Growing up I hung out with both groups but did hang out with guys a lot, like went on adventures and stuff with them. I enjoyed doing 'guy' things, but I also enjoyed their attention which turned sexual when they started going through puberty. So they became interested in me in that way too, and brought me along to hang out for that reason too, which I didn't mind because I had secret crushes on like all of them from the very beginning lol.

But ya I never really thought about it but I did hang out with guys a lot growing up. In a way, becoming more feminine allowed me to continue hanging out with them as they increasingly began to see me sexually and not just as a playmate or whatever.

I can relate to both though, although I, probably overall, prefer hanging out with guys and JUST guys because 1) for the attention, and 2) because if there are other girls there then it just becomes a competition thing.

The histrionic I knew talked about being a tomboy in her childhood.

I'm fascinated though what that must have looked like, were histrionics normal as children ? How did these histrionic traits develop over time.