Feel better away from people, Tired of peoples crap

I have no idea where to post this, so I'm here, dealing with some fairly recent issues but originates from the past and how it relates to the present. (Don't take offense to anything I write, and nothing is directed at any of you at this Forum, I'm just venting about people in my life)

I need your help on what to do to handle this, as my Depression and feelings of insanity are eating me alive, and I feel over time, this is ruining my mind and ability to think clearly.

I'm feeling more and more wanting to withdraw myself away from others, meaning most people in general, and I feel my sanity directly reflects being able to be home, in peace, away from other people.

I have been in a very deep Depression, and I find relief by being by myself. Just leave me alone to tinker with my electronics and computer parts, and I'll be happy and content.

When I can't get away from others, I get stressed easier, and far more intolerant of others, and quicker to get angry, flip out, or get enraged at others. My mindspace gets filled with constant thoughts of people I encounter throughout the day, and the situations, and how to fight or avoid those people, instead of being filled with more positive thoughts of things like goals, hobbies, entertainment, organization for myself. (positive stuff in my interest gets overrun by the negative thoughts of other people)

People are so mean, and I just want to stay home away from them. I don't work for anyone. I go out when I need to make money, I am self employed and things are just way too slow, but the BIG problem NOW is that I don't want to go out and deal with people to make money. I fix computers for a living, and I'm getting tired of the same stupid computer crap, same stupid questions, peoples moods and attitudes, and idiots that don't want to pay for my services, and act like I have nothing better to do in my life than to work on their computers.

Now I need ~$150 dollars to reinstate my car insurance to keep my Drivers License. I have to fix this issue with people or my handling of it, I can't go broke and without wheels.

I AM DONE with trying to work another job, just so some asshole can push me around, humiliate me, pick on me, waste my time, and minimally pay me, all while having to deal with STUPID workplace drama and peoples nonsense, and even if I don't participate in it, people still get weird and eventually push me towards the end of my employment, because people are so damn crooked!

I also find when I go out to town to shop, get gas, eat food, I never want to see someone I know, I like going to OTHER towns now to do those things because I don't know anyone and nobody will BOTHER ME! Another thing, is the area I live has some of the weirdest people ever. They are quick to point out things about you, in order to cover up or feel better about their own issues. The women here are garbage, nothing but sluts that want you for a meal and a place to live. The people here are such idiots and losers, and I don't want to be their friends. I feel like there's crap to choose from for women, peers, friends, and employers here. I have friends, but stick to a very FEW people, and I'm so intolerant of anyone that if a friend starts being crappy, I cut them off for a while and permanently if they continue. I AM GLAD I do this only allows me to keep true friends.

That's all good as far as friends, a few good ones is better than many crappy ones, and I've been on BOTH sides of that. I'm now finding I don't like the people here and I don't want to know anyone anymore. I don't want to make friends with the folks here.

I'm sick of peoples' drama, their manipulations, their stupid illogical social games they play, their schemes, their nosiness and prying into my private live, their judgmental arrogant attitudes, their rude behavior, the STUPID "norms" which vary greatly, that people do which make no sense and are not desirable to me whatsoever. I WISH PEOPLE WOULD LEAVE ME ALONE, LIVE AND LET LIVE, I'M NOT A THREAT WHEN YOU LEAVE ME ALONE!

Hi, Extraordinormal! Yah, people can be very mean and fake, it's hard to have to deal with them sometimes.
What are you going to do about the money you need? Do you think that finding a business partner that you get along with might help? Maybe you'd feel less exposed when you go fix someone's computer that way, if you share the work with someone else.

the area I live has some of the weirdest people ever. They are quick to point out things about you, in order to cover up or feel better about their own issues. The women here are garbage, nothing but sluts that want you for a meal and a place to live. The people here are such idiots and losers, and I don't want to be their friends. I feel like there's crap to choose from for women, peers, friends, and employers here. I have friends, but stick to a very FEW people, and I'm so intolerant of anyone that if a friend starts being crappy, I cut them off for a while and permanently if they continue.

How ironic. Stop playing the victim. Your anger is overblown.

Read the story of Mohandas Gandhi and/or Jaycee Dugard - two people who have endured real persecution, real torture at the hands of others. And neither of them have held on to their anger or decided to turn their backs on the world. They embrace(d) life and refuse(d) to uphold a victim mentality.

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Black Dove wrote:

the area I live has some of the weirdest people ever. They are quick to point out things about you, in order to cover up or feel better about their own issues. The women here are garbage, nothing but sluts that want you for a meal and a place to live. The people here are such idiots and losers, and I don't want to be their friends. I feel like there's crap to choose from for women, peers, friends, and employers here. I have friends, but stick to a very FEW people, and I'm so intolerant of anyone that if a friend starts being crappy, I cut them off for a while and permanently if they continue.

How ironic. Stop playing the victim. Your anger is overblown.

Read the story of Mohandas Gandhi and/or Jaycee Dugard - two people who have endured real persecution, real torture at the hands of others. And neither of them have held on to their anger or decided to turn their backs on the world. They embrace(d) life and refuse(d) to uphold a victim mentality.

Wow! I have GAD and I'm sorry but this is NOT how you handle someone with a problem! Telling them to GET OVER IT? You are very abrasive and rude. I feel so sorry for this poster. If you cannot be helpful maybe you need not to post to others that ARE having issues! I cannot believe the mods allowed your post to remain let alone for it to even get posted!

You Cannot say just because these two people overcame such horror that everyone should be able to.....we are NOT cookie cutter people....and you are a truly sad individual!

Ashamed wrote:Telling them to GET OVER IT?

Never said that.

You Cannot say just because these two people overcame such horror that everyone should be able to.....

Anyone who is not psychotic, does not have developmental difficulties, dissociation, CAN do it. No where was the word "SHOULD" used. People CAN overcome their problems. You, coming from a GAD standpoint likely can't see beyond your disorder, hence your disapproval bordering on e-rage.

you are a truly sad individual!

"Abrasive and rude" certainly applies to someone in this thread, and it isn't me. If you want to continue chastising me, that's fine. Please have the courtesy next time to do so via PM.
You feel so sorry for this person, perhaps it would benefit the op if you offered up your pearls of wisdom.

This might be a good time to take a break and take away until tempers cool.
If you have a serious concern please Pm a Moderator.
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Hi Extraordinormal,

First of all, I don't believe you are playing the victim here as others may think. Sometimes it's hard for others to understand how completely impossible certain situations can be for different people.

You sound a lot like I use to be, but I think I had more "up" moments than you are/were having. I absolutely HATED work and often found it so difficult to wake up and go to work. I was very very depressed because I couldn't seem to function in any way shape or form.

In my case, I was diagnosed with bipolar disorder, but it doesn't necessarily mean you are. I was shocked at the diagnosis and at first couldn't believe I was bipolar. After I began my treatment my whole world began to change. It's not perfect but I am a lot better than I was. It was also much worse when I was younger and took too much to heart, but now in my 40's, I could care less what others think of me

Working for yourself is a good idea, it's what I do too. Just have a passion for what you do and you'll never grow tired of it.

Wishing you the best.

I find it terribly ironic that the original poster laments the meanness of people and the second response is a snide, callous, ignorant, simplistic, self indulgent, exploitative, attack. (The post, not the person.)

I'm reminded of the hypothetical Internet morons who feel the need during a debate to explain with extreme vigor just how little they care. The response refutes itself.

Clearly the OP has an objective point. People ARE as he describes them.

The trick for me is understanding why. I think media has raised our expectations past reasonable limits. For example, the notion of selflessness which seems to be required for a great many cultural beliefs, is from every logical angle completely impossible.

In any case the meanest people are often in a great deal of pain themselves. And the best distraction sadly for one's own pain is to cause it in others. Especially if you're not very intelligent and the real architects (human or systemic) of your suffering completely illude your understanding.

As a tribal animal we are programmed, by the realities of developing adjacent to an ice age, to cull the weak. This manifests in the less evolved and lower intellect as an emotional hatred for the weak. Bullying and such.

Like the misguided belief held by those who indulge in vengeance culture, that when they attack people, they are attacking actions or ideas. As if murdering a murderer is murdering murder. And they only get angrier when their solution, which feels so right, is proved so obviously wrong. How long have we been killing killers? If that approach worked, then why are there still killers?

The point is that even the most vile human is still human, and often their vileness is the only thing that allows them to survive, sometimes directly. Like prison guards for example.

They are among the most loathsome people on the face of the earth by most measures. Imagine the kind of mind it takes to sign up to torment people all day, to preside over rape, for money, doubly so given the state of our "justice" system. But imagine his side of it, imagine the one that has no choice, or believes he has no choice.

Imagine being forced to BE something you detest. Imagine being convinced that your value as a human is directly proportional to the degree to which you torment yourself to live up to society's often conflicting and impossible standards.

As a result of this kind of stress humanity evolved things like cognitive dissonance and other forms of mental gymnastics that allow us to do what we have to do, feel what we have to feel, in order to survive, no matter how wrong.

http://www.ted.com/talks/dan_gilbert_as ... happy.html
http://www.ted.com/talks/dan_gilbert_re ... iness.html

I never want to see someone I know

I too hate to see people I know because I know for a fact how they are. With strangers I can at least pretend they are good people, maybe, if I got to know them. But the people I know, not so much.

Read the story of Mohandas Gandhi

Clearly you haven't. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WezyyL5j2U

two people who have endured real persecution, real torture

Your examples are clearly extraordinary people. By definition, extraordinary people cannot be used as evidence for extolling normal behavior. In short the OP's reaction is more normal than your suggested course of action. Imagine you find someone pinned under a car, and you harass them and say "you CAN lift that car off of yourself because there's this guy named Ryan Kennelly who can lift 1027 pounds."

In short, your completely illogical demand for the extraordinary from the ordinary is raw conflicted absurdity.

Conceptually it ensures that no one will ever be good enough, because even in a world populated by varying degrees of saint you'd find flaw with the average saint and demand that they all live up to the extraordinary in that culture.

This is the kind of thing that makes me understand the OP's rage. It is as if basic, simple, kindness and logic are wholly outside the thought range of the vast majority of people, and this is no accident.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcYBSXgtmKQ

This malevolence is engineered, and as Noam would say, our consent for it is manufactured. It is based on flawed, self serving(which is tolerable on it's own), atavistic, logic, somewhere between a chimp on his worst day and a crow on his best.

This society, by design, isolates and marginalizes non-conformity in an effort to stream-line itself. The problem however is that, genius is by definition non-conformist. And a culture needs its geniuses to help it adapt to a changing environment.

Anyone who is not psychotic, does not have developmental difficulties, dissociation, CAN do it.

That's an unfalsifiable statement since any counter example provided could be subjectively piled into one of the sets you just lined up.

The first step in identifying your own misconceptions, which is essential, for critical thinking is to imagine what evidence would refute your statements. If the statement is constructed in such a way that there can be no evidence that is your first clue that you may be wildly incorrect and victim of logical fallacy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OLPL5p0fMg
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... ral_biases

We must be vigilant with our thought processes lest we end up with the logical acumen of a toddler and the ethics of a sand wasp.

I cannot believe the mods allowed your post to remain let alone for it to even get posted!

Nor can I but I am glad they did, freedom of speech means putting up with morons. Our tolerance of all expression even when it's absurd is a testament to our integrity.

I try to view the mean and the dim as children, not in need of scolding and beating as the majority handles children, but patience and guidance, the kind which makes people better than their parents.

If you want to continue chastising me, that's fine. Please have the courtesy next time to do so via PM.

Extolling a dubious standard of etiquette after metaphorically telling a paraplegic to walk it off. Fascinating.

You in my opinion should receive your replies in public because that is where you initiated the conflict with someone clearly just looking for some peace. One wonders, why are you even here?

I fix computers for a living, and I'm getting tired of the same

Ditto. I gave up on that line of work for reasons I don't need to get into. My point in commenting on this sentence is to note that I shared, and share, a similar weariness but from the debate side. For a time, I actually believed people would respond to clear logic and solid evidence.

They absolutely do not. I've spent these past few years learning about why, and figuring out what to do with my life having spent so much of it perfecting a useless skill.

The women here are garbage, nothing but sluts that want you for a meal and a place to live.

This is misplaced rage. I can explain but it's a huge subject. May I suggest you start here...

http://www.psy.fsu.edu/~baumeistertice/goodaboutmen.htm

That's all good as far as friends, a few good ones is better than many crappy ones, and I've been on BOTH sides of that. I'm now finding I don't like the people here and I don't want to know anyone anymore. I don't want to make friends with the folks here.

Could not agree more, and I for one would like the culture to explore the possibility that maybe it's not our problem. Ever notice how an excess of every behavior or emotion is a labeled pathology except laziness?

I bet you'd like my blog. Http://underlore.com

And oh yeah... Hi everyone!

This is my first post

Edit: sorry for the late proofread on this, I didn't know this forum engaged in Orwellian moderation.

Thank you for all your responses, even the first reply, as it helped to prove my point, and thanks for all the intelligent responses, been reading a lot and has been a real eye opener.