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how do you stop when you literally have nothing, except debt

Postby kittenswift39 » Mon May 21, 2018 9:41 pm

another bad loss, finally would of had 1000$ to get out of my overdraft fee, not counting the 25k plus i owe to credit cards.

bet over 4.5 for the game on sweden switzerland, it says fulltime.. ends 3-2, would of had the 1000$ to cashout, but oh wait, i guess on this website it doesn't count overtime.. what a scam

I dunno what to do lol, i keep thinking more and more about suicide tbh.. like, i'm 24 almost 25, done nothing with my life, work part time minimum wage, make 400$ a week that i gamble on friday after getting paid thursday, wait another week, and repeat

i'm literally 30k in the hole, that will take like 2 years to pay back, i just don't see it happening, i've been working since 18 here and everyone including my parents think i have 100k saved up, not 30k in debt..

i can't get a relationship or anything because i have nothing, i'm a failure, my parents want me to go to school, doubt i can even get OSAP or the free money they give out if i'm in debt to even go to school.. if i never started gambling, i'd of had enough money for school right now and a nice camaro, instead, people just graduating highschool are ten steps ahead of me in every aspect, can't even meet girls

whats going to be my pickup line

"hi i'm 24, work part time at a $#%^ job, and i'm 30k in debt, nice to meet you"

life is just $#%^, i'm so tired of all of this, i don't have it in me to wait 2 years to pay off a debt, when I SHOULD have 100,000$$ saved up right now, i stopped taking my anti depressants as well, just because

i'm so tired of everything, ugh.

i'm a legit biggest failure ever, owe 30,000$, almost 25, haven't went to school, LIVE WITH MY FRIGGEN PARENTS, like.. i think the only way out is going to be suicide, at some point, not sure when or where, but yeah

i just wanted to win my money back, and stop, i know everyone says "thats not possible, you'll start again"

but legit if i had all the money i wasted on gambling, i would NEVER gamble again, but i'm almost 5 years behind for not going to school, and another 3 years behind trying to get out of debt, i legit flipped on my bank for emailing me about the credit card because i told them like 5 months ago i had a gambling problem and wanted them to close my cards, which they didn't, now they want their money, like go to hell you dumb @@@@@@@.

-- Mon May 21, 2018 4:43 pm --

everytime i lose my money on friday, i pretty much wait till pay day thinking of illegal ways to make my money back, since gambling should be illegal, because it programs peoples minds, i wanted to do it in an illegal way, but could really not think of anything, was thinking of breaking into cars, trying to scam stores like walmart, etc.. but there's really no way to make my money back, it's just funny, driving around i see all of this stuff worth so much money, houses,cars, yet it's so hard to get any money in your hands.
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Re: how do you stop when you literally have nothing, except debt

Postby NewSunRising » Mon May 21, 2018 11:06 pm

KS , I know this might not make sense to you at this moment but money isn't your problem . The debt and all the obsession about money are just symptoms of the disease . If you "won" a million dollars tomorrow , it wouldn't fix anything . It would only give you more to gamble with .

Sure , you would pay off whatever debt you have at the moment , but in the end you'd lose it all and be back in debt even worse than you are now . Because you aren't doing anything about the disease . Gambling addiction justifies itself by every means possible to keep us feeding it .

You're focused on the bleeding and ignoring the gaping wound that's causing it . Nothing is going to get better until you stop gambling for good . I know it's probably little comfort , but this is pretty common thinking in gambling addiction . We really believe that all we need is that one big score , that jackpot , that impossible-odds win , and our problems will be over and we can " start fresh " .
But it just doesn't happen that way . The addiction doesn't stop after the debt goes away. The debt goes away after we stop the addiction .

Gambling has wrecked your finances , your peace of mind , your self-respect and your plans for your future . Yet you are still doing it and thinking that it will somehow restore all of those things if you do it right and/or get lucky . That's the biggest scam of all .

I urge you to get help with this . There are GA programs available . You can cut up your credit cards yourself . You can tell your parents that you desperately need help . You can take back control of your life and start repairing the damage one day at a time . All of this is possible . Stop letting the addiction drive the bus and stop acting like you're just a passenger . You have the power to change you actions and the first step is deciding that no stupid addiction is going to determine whether you live or die .

You get one life , man . ONE . Start fighting for it . You can do this .
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Re: how do you stop when you literally have nothing, except debt

Postby housealwayswins » Tue May 22, 2018 6:08 am

You made me laugh. Not at you, with you. Because you remind me of many people including myself and where I used to be, and the way I used to think. That line you said about picking up girls was hilarious. You sound like George Costanza from Seinfeld. You're not a bad guy, just a young person who's still a kid at heart who made some mistakes, which we all have. It's a learning process. Your life will not get better until you LEARN. Do not keep repeating the same pattern and expecting different results. Your way of thinking and your pattern, which you keep repeating is what is keeping you in the same messed up place. As NewSun said, the addiction is your problem and your mindset. And also the if only and what if's which you keep replaying just keep you in a negative state of mind which feeds of itself.

Gambling is the problem.Not what you lost. If you continue to gamble, which is an addiction, you will continue to lose. You can't and never will control it. It's not because you should have picked a different game, it's because you're betting in the first place and take those risks. The risk taking behaviour is a trap, and your down fall.

To meet a girl and be in a position to do so you have to have a healthy, strong mindset and heart. A good, strong soul. Until you have that no matter how much money you acquire, you will never meet a good girl that is good for you. Your heart and mind will be faulty and when you aren't pure you aren't real. When you're not real you aren't strong.

'' I don't have it in me '' That's #######4. You do. And as long as you think that, and act out that belief you won't have it in you I'm afraid and you never will. Get it in you. Slowly. A little bit at a time. A little money at a time that you work for and don't gamble, is one aspect of how you get your life back and yourself. Pick up lines are for morons anyway, they rarely work if ever at all. You have to be yourself and again when you are content with yourself, like who you are, are healthy, strong, live a good productive life and are in a good way mentally, spiritually and physically, the rest will flow and take care of itself.

NSR is right again. If you won a million dollars you would lose it all. And how would you win it, gambling. That is the problem. As long as you are gambling, it always will be.

without sacrifice and hard work, the chances are 99 percent you won't succeed.
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Re: how do you stop when you literally have nothing, except debt

Postby NewSunRising » Tue May 22, 2018 1:11 pm

I just want to add this : Don't think we're giving up on you . We know you can beat this addiction and get your life together . It's not impossible . Many here have done it and many more are working hard every day to do it too . You have a huge chance to fight back and turn everything around . No one wants to see you give up on yourself and throw that chance away . You're worth the fight .

You have to stop this downward spiral and I don't think quitting your depression meds is doing you any good in that respect . Gambling fuels depression . It's bad enough when it's ordinary depression , it's catastrophic when combined with clinical depression .

Set aside the problem of the debt for now and let go of the idea of a miracle "win" that will make it all go away . Stop digging the hole deeper . The debt will resolve itself with time and effort , not by gambling .
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Re: how do you stop when you literally have nothing, except debt

Postby kittenswift39 » Wed May 23, 2018 8:29 pm

thanks guys!! not sure where'd i be without the help of the people on this website

maybe, maybe not, i really do think if i won that much money, i'd stop though, haha.. i've never really won that much at all, people on here say they've won 30,000, and such, even at that point i'd of stopped, I think.

it's just trying to get back what you've lost and the years you've wasted, which is like 5-6 years gone for me, with no progress made

it's just hard not to think about debt when it's the main thing holding you back, can't go to school with debt, etc, can't really do anything while in debt..

it's going to take forever to pay anything back making 300-400 a week.. but I guess i need to try

honestly wish their were meds out there that made you emotionless, and not care about anything, or about doing anything, that would be the easiest way to stop all of this
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Re: how do you stop when you literally have nothing, except debt

Postby harrinmz » Thu May 24, 2018 1:28 am

Hey ks, I'm in a similar place...

I'm so on the edge of throwing everything away..

Let's go 24 hours, and then another, then another.

If we slip up one more time we need to tell everyone close to us about where we actually are in life..use that as motivation. We got this.

Love you,
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Re: how do you stop when you literally have nothing, except debt

Postby housealwayswins » Fri May 25, 2018 7:01 am

You to have a long term plan and way of thinking. Your mistake and downfall is having the risk taking mindset of a gambler but also in life. Looking for a quick fix and easy solution. There isn't one and never will be. As long as you think that way you're only going to partake in the same destructive behaviour and ruin yourself in every aspect.

You have a choice. You can save your money and not gamble and be out of this mess, and have money. Or you can continue to throw away your livelihood and yourself for the rest of your life, ten years, whatever it may be.

Ultimately are you not willing to sacrifice 1-2 years to get in a good position mentally, physically, spiritually, emotionally and financially for the sake of having nothing all of the time for the rest of your life?

It's up to you to decide whether you want to be strong and get a good life or if you're going to continue to waste everything. Why waste time? Why waste ten years being worse off or worse than that the rest of your life when you can get out of hell in a much sooner time.

Gambling is like using drugs. It may, may make you feel good for a short time { gambling rarely does } but ultimately the high wears off and you come crashing down feeling like $#%^ 10 times worse than before. If you choose to gamble you're choosing to use drugs.

What do drugs do to you? Exactly. Nothing good.

You guys need to wake up and be strong and take responsibility. Gambling makes us like kids. We only like to win and not to lose. You know by now the actions of what happens when you gamble. So stop with the excuses.

Guess what, find a better positive past time. Don't make excuses either. Boredom is inevitable and is a part of life. It's no excuse to gamble because '' I was bored ''

bad luck. Be bored. That's still better than losing 10 or 20k. Then instead of being bored for a day or so, you're life is ruined. Not one day, but everyday. Until you fix it.

Fix it yourself. We're responsible for ourselves. We're adults. And those who aren't shouldn't be gambling in the first place and are still going to have to fix this mess and take responsibility.

Your mum, your dad, your best friend or partner can't quit gambling for you.

Choose to be strong or not to. It is literally your choice and no one else's.


Stop living a lie.
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Re: how do you stop when you literally have nothing, except debt

Postby blue_green_lake » Sat May 26, 2018 12:29 pm

kittenswift39 wrote: i really do think if i won that much money, i'd stop though, haha.. i've never really won that much at all, people on here say they've won 30,000, and such, even at that point i'd of stopped, I think.


Sorry, but I think you are not aware that you have a behavioral addiction. You are addicted to a behavior, and to the rush it gives you. New Sun Rising is correct: "Money isn't your problem. The debt and all the obsession about money are just symptoms of the disease."

You gamble for emotional reasons. We all did. We think it's about wanting money, but it's really about wanting escape from unpleasant feelings. When I ever have temptations about gambling, I ask myself, "What am I sad about?" That gets to the heart of the matter, and redirects my focus to what I am truly feeling, and brings me back to myself. You are worth more than this torment you put yourself through.

I wish you the courage to self-exclude from betting venues.
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Re: how do you stop when you literally have nothing, except debt

Postby NewSunRising » Sat May 26, 2018 2:57 pm

I do the same thing Blue_green_lake does . Whenever I get thoughts about wanting to gamble again , the first thing I do is ask myself why . The reasons are almost always the same - I'm frustrated , I'm stressed , I'm unhappy , I have to do or face something I really don't want to .

My next thought is " How is gambling going to help me with that ? " The answer is always the same : It's not . In fact , it's guaranteed to make it worse .

I want to stress that BGL and I have been in recovery for a significant amount of time . The clarity that comes with being gamble-free for a long time makes it much easier to recognize the mind games that addiction plays on us . It's critical that you get that time away from gambling . The " gambling fog " is real and it can take months before it clears but once it does , it's like seeing life with new eyes . Eyes that can see through the lies .
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Re: how do you stop when you literally have nothing, except debt

Postby rainbowcolor » Sat May 26, 2018 11:50 pm

housealwayswins wrote:Guess what, find a better positive past time. Don't make excuses either. Boredom is inevitable and is a part of life. It's no excuse to gamble because '' I was bored ''


Since I stop going to the casinos, I had more free time and sometime I feel like a “queen” because now I have the time and the luxury of a clear mind to read and enjoy online books from the library that had been on my wish list for a while. No time to be bored. :mrgreen:
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