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Convincing others that you're beautiful (possible HPD)

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Convincing others that you're beautiful (possible HPD)

Postby Kastellan » Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:09 pm

I befriended a girl who has histrionic traits some time ago. I did not find her all that beautiful, she's good looking but just not my type. She had a very interesting personality though and shared some rather rare interests with me so I wanted her as my best friend and that's what happened.

Now get this, I never said anything about her looks but she was constantly trying to prove to me that she was beautiful. This was seriously annoying - always showing me model pictures of her and telling me how others complimented her. Everytime we talked about the looks of some other woman, comparing herself to them like: "She's very beautiful, not sure if she's as beautiful as I am, but really beautiful" or things like "Wow, that guy is totally into me, how dare he, he's nowhere near my league". I ignored that, but after some time it turned into "I really value our friendship so much, I'm scared you'll fall in love with me and it will destroy everything". To top it all off, soon after that came "I know you love me and I'm not sure how to deal with it". By love she meant lust I suppose. It took all in all about 4 months and it all seemed so determined... As if it had to happen that way.

I then waited for a proper intimate moment to take every part of her facial structure and tell her why exactly it is not beautiful and not perfect. After that she got depressed for some time and was really angry at me, though not ready to cut contact, I guess because she had still some hope that I would take back what I had said and expose it as a lie. I didn't exactly do that, but I apologized and then I broke off contact a couple of weeks ago.

Well, a lot of the relationship dynamic is missing here of course, wanted to keep it short. What are your experiences with this? It's one of the most annoying traits she possessed, always bringing that stuff in a platonic relationship, where it just doesn't belong...
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Re: Convincing others that you're beautiful (possible HPD)

Postby xdude » Wed Jun 26, 2013 10:43 pm

My somewhat short answer -

If we met a guy who was regularly mentioning how wealthy he was, flashing his jewelry, automobile, etc., a few things come to mind -

1.) We're well aware that a wealthy person has an asset that others want, and as a result, some will treat that person better in exchange for (or hopes of) some of that wealth. The same applies to extreme sexual appeal.

2.) If a person was commenting on their wealth very often, or outright asking for compliments often, we'd soon enough be wondering what is wrong with their sense of self-esteem that they require so much re-assurance?

3.) A very wealthy person likely can find enough people who will treat them well in exchange for $ or the potential of, that they may end up surrounding themselves with people who tell them what they want to hear, and reject opposing views, not just specifically about wealth, but about their views in general. i.e., none of us particularly like criticism or disagreement, but our tolerance for it is relative to how strong our egos are, and how use to it we've become. Some people with valued assets can end up being intolerant, lacking in empathy, shallow, etc.

I would say people should enjoy their assets in life, but assets can be a blessing or a curse.
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Re: Convincing others that you're beautiful (possible HPD)

Postby Cyanide » Thu Jun 27, 2013 9:53 am

Sounds more narcissistic than anything.
One thing is missing from the story: your opinion of what she says. Is she actually out of their leage, do you actually love her, etc?
Without that info how can we possibly respond to this?
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Re: Convincing others that you're beautiful (possible HPD)

Postby orion13213 » Thu Jun 27, 2013 6:11 pm

That does have an NPD feel to it, but then again some HPDs have narcissistic dimensions.
At any rate, by the time we are 18 most all of us have learned and accepted the codes and signals of human behavior. When you set the platonic boundary, but she kept trying to penetrate it, first time it might have been funny, second time puzzling, then afterwards it was evidence of manipulation. Most people, especially most men, don't like being manipulated...makes em angry. Anger that is suppressed comes out as irritation.
Even worse in these circumstances is when you are seduced...seduce comes from Latin; means "to be led astray."
And worst of all is when you are falsely seduced...falsely led astray...when the HPD person actually has no interest in sex; in their sexual stage of 8 years, sex is a powerul and frightening activity (which is .normal for an 8 year old). But this is so well concealed that it seems malicious to the sexually adult Non...the ready conclusion is it is false advertising. Imagine if some big retailer said "50% off on all items today!" in an advert but instead when you got there everything was normal price. People don't like dishonest manipulation because they cant control it...this why a person's words are still not immaterial, and it is the source of much of the irritation Nons experience with Histrionics, however mistaken...
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