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Re: Is it possible for an alter to be Autistic?

Postby galaxies » Sat Oct 13, 2012 12:32 pm

It is definitely possible.
At the household, there is a child who we believe to have autism.

He does not speak except to repeat short phrases; he does not respond to comments directed at him; he never meets eye contact; he will tantrum if touched; he will not play with toys in the sense of actual play but more-so arranges them by color or stacks them and becomes irate if any are moved; he rocks back and forth and does repetitive tapping rhythms with his left hand, tics of blinking, hitting, head banging, and pacing; he vehemently loathes foods of certain textures (concluded this by his screeching and throwing it from the plate); displays an over sensitivity to light and noise and social stimuli, among other things.

I think it is much the same as my Magdella being a classic sociopath, Jade being anorexic and OCD, HB having OCD, Rat having RAD, and PTSD manifesting in different ways or not at all.
Being neurotypical is overrated! He-he.

I like Shay and I am happy she posts here.

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Re: Is it possible for an alter to be Autistic?

Postby doe-eyed » Sun Oct 14, 2012 1:45 am

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Re: Is it possible for an alter to be Autistic?

Postby tomboy24 » Thu Oct 18, 2012 5:05 am

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Re: Is it possible for an alter to be Autistic?

Postby ChristaAngel » Thu Oct 18, 2012 11:29 pm

No, it should not be possible. If DID is based on your own neurobiology and is a fragmented version of your true personality, then that is impossible. Autism is an inherited condition and not something you can develope during your life. Autistic behavior is possible but the neurological condition itself is not.

Although it may seem rational that an alter could be autistic due to the hypothetical connections between these two conditions. You may consider the Amygdala theory as a possible explanation to autism. And yes, impaired function of amygdala and lesions in this area may certainly cause or induce autistic behavior. You may see the connection between this and the clearly reduced amygdala volumes that are common among people with DID. Thus it may seem rational that an alter may be autistic, but this is only induced behavior. But maybe that was your point.
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Re: Is it possible for an alter to be Autistic?

Postby sev0n » Fri Oct 19, 2012 1:30 am

Autistic behavior is possible but the neurological condition itself is not.



I agree with the above poster. The behavior is what the alter will show and he/she may believe he/she is autistic, but that is simply a belief.

I have one that believes he is autistic and was created to deal with math in school. All the alters in my system that deal with him believe the same thing.

I have several other alters who believe themselves to be psychopaths and sociopaths - but again, just because they display this behavior, does not make them such.
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Re: Is it possible for an alter to be Autistic?

Postby tomboy24 » Fri Oct 19, 2012 1:37 am

ChristaAngel: For someone who, I recall, said they don't know much about DID, and for someone who's fairly new here, you sure come off as a high-and-mighty sounding know-it-all.

There's been research surrounding the fact that different alters can have different f*#king allergies and different f*#king blood test results, even different f*#king eyesights. There's been research around how neurotransmitters or whatever can actually change a whole f*#king lot through the body on a chemical/hormonal/whatever level and sh*t. Besides, the whole reason Rain posted this was because she was having a hard time even believing that Shay could truly have Autistic characteristics, so it's not like we're f*#king saying it's possible on all f*#king levels.

Obviously, we now do believe it's possible. We're not saying she actually truly is Autistic, but we believe it is possible for an alter in general to have such a condition. My belief as far as we go? If we hadn't split, I bet we'd be slightly Autistic or something. (Don't ask me how that works, but I bet it does somehow- the brain's a pretty f*#king powerful thing).

Now, I realize you could've just simply been stating your opinion, and if you were, I didn't mean to step on any toes or overstep my boundaries. But as an explanation (not an excuse), you came off sounding like you know everything and sh*t, and I admit, it p*ssed me off. If I didn't have a right to be angry, then I apologize.

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Re: Is it possible for an alter to be Autistic?

Postby sev0n » Fri Oct 19, 2012 1:43 am

Hi Kat,

Why would you get angry when CA gave her opinion of her question. Do you want to figure your question out or do you just want people to agree with you. I am confused here. You have always been so kind.
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Re: Is it possible for an alter to be Autistic?

Postby ChristaAngel » Fri Oct 19, 2012 1:55 am

I apologize, I did not mean to be a "newbie who suddenly knows everything". But the truth is that I am a know-it-all person and I have the tendency to get involved in discussions like this, especially due to the fact that most of the time I do know what I'm talking about. But I apologize for that if what I said sounded a bit harsh of me.

However, I do not know much about your culture so I cannot know your belief in issues like this. I had to answer the question the way it was asked.

Besides, you didn't ask anything about DID per se. The question could be interpreted as a neurobiological question and thus I only gave my view of that issue considering the scientific aspect of the question.
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Re: Is it possible for an alter to be Autistic?

Postby tomboy24 » Fri Oct 19, 2012 1:59 am

Tylas: I admit, I might be projecting from another post of her's I recently read. When someone states that they don't know much about DID, and then turns around and sounds so positive and absolute on another thread, it doesn't sit well with me. My view: How can you make such a positive stand on something that you don't know much about? That's what mostly bugged me- how absolute and for-sure, "this-is-fact" she seemed to me, despite saying that she doesn't know much about DID, how it works, anything, at all. Again, if I misinterpreted it, or if I had no right to get angry, I apologize.

(And I see, just now, that I did slightly misinterpret it, so my apologies, ChristaAngel. Just remember- you're in a DID forum. Be careful about what you think you "know" -not intended to sound offensive or threatening, just fyi).

-KAT


Katherine, I will not delete your posts, though I wish to. I also wish that you would respect me enough to not antagonize people on my thread. I am quite capable of moderating it myself, thank you.

*As a side note: Tylas, I simply love your websites on DID/DDNOS. You have done so much to raise accurate awareness for DID/DDNOS, I'm sure many people are grateful for your work. I know we are.

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Re: Is it possible for an alter to be Autistic?

Postby ChristaAngel » Fri Oct 19, 2012 2:11 am

tomboy24 wrote:Just remember- you're in a DID forum. Be careful about what you think you "know" -not intended to sound offensive or threatening, just fyi).

I don't really understand what you mean. DID is still a biological condition and you are still human. Therefore, what I "know" is still the same valid knowledge as anywhere else in this world. (I don't mean to sound offensive, but I shouldn't filter my opinions or knowledge simply because this is a DID forum.)

But yes, I can see why this first post I made seemed a bit strange considering that it was my first day here.
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