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Postby bourbon » Thu Mar 01, 2012 7:31 pm

Hi guys,

Wondering if I can get your experiences on something.

I am noticing more and more now that I will "come to" only having lost a minute or so of time - but with the words I have said echoing around my mind so I seem to be hearing them second hand. I will also notice that something is different to my body i.e. my hand will have moved and I will have no recollection of this and no second hand recall.

Had discussions with my therapist today about the extent that this is normal. Or if its part of depersonalisation or amnesia or dissociation to some extent.

Any thoughts greatfully appreciated.

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Re: Time jumping

Postby dividedtruth89 » Thu Mar 01, 2012 11:12 pm

WEll.....sounds normal for a DD. I'm glad you're talking this over with your therapist. I read your recent post and I know things are rough for you atm. I think you are showing great progress :mrgreen:
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Re: Time jumping

Postby watcheroflights » Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:34 pm

Bourbon
We have the same problem.This has been going on for years.Times lose is in miuntes not hours,days.Now some will say this is just normal dissociation but when it happens many times on a daily bases than seems to us it something more.Seems it goes along when there is a lot of switching going on and co-fronting.You know the revolving door issue.What we like calling the conga line effect,everyone taking a turn at the front of the line.
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Re: Time jumping

Postby bourbon » Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:39 pm

watcheroflights wrote:What we like calling the conga line effect,everyone taking a turn at the front of the line.


Haha I like that anology. I call it the carousel. Both suit :)

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dividedtruth89 wrote:I read your recent post and I know things are rough for you atm. I think you are showing great progress


Thank you. My therapist knows he just didn't seem to want to give me a straight answer over whether it was normal or not either
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Re: Time jumping

Postby Una+ » Fri Mar 02, 2012 5:16 pm

I know the feeling. Suddenly I am disoriented and words are echoing in my mind and I am thinking "What just happened?" and "Did I say that?"

This is typical dissociative amnesia. It is hard to say if you have been experiencing dissociative amnesia all along and just never knew it, or if it is new or more frequent now that therapy is activating your dissociative defenses.

Dissociative amnesia is a symptom, not necessarily amounting to the disorder Dissociative Amnesia. Some experts on dissociative disorders maintain that all cases of diagnosed Dissociative Amnesia are actually DID lacking adequate diagnostic evaluation. Dissociative amnesia is one symptom required for diagnosis of DID (or DID-like DDNOS).

I have a lot of dissociative amnesia, in blocks of seconds up to much, much longer. Sometimes I notice a gap, either when I "come to" or much later. More often I don't notice anything but my therapist or my husband does notice and brings it to my attention. Lately, when I "come to" I don't notice myself but some other part of me does and I experience passive influence phenomena: suddenly my anxiety skyrockets along with depersonalization / derealization symptoms. It is an almost indescribable uh-oh moment. I first suspected a few months ago that these moments of sudden disorientation might signal lost time, but then there weren't any of these moments in the presence of someone I trusted enough to involve in exploring what just happened, until my last therapy session. We promptly explored what just happened and yup, there was a trigger to a trauma flashback.
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Re: Time jumping

Postby bourbon » Fri Mar 02, 2012 6:47 pm

Una+ wrote:Suddenly I am disoriented and words are echoing in my mind and I am thinking "What just happened?" and "Did I say that?"


I am so glad you said that. I was wondering if the word echoing was just me... I couldn't see anyone else (on the internet) relating to that. Do you think YOU just said that, or do you think it was another alter? It would be easy to tell if it was Kerry as her voice is so distinct from mine but the older alters sound liek me!

Una+ wrote:This is typical dissociative amnesia. It is hard to say if you have been experiencing dissociative amnesia all along and just never knew it, or if it is new or more frequent now that therapy is activating your dissociative defenses.


I think both? I've definitely had experiences like these all along but I do think it's happening more now because of therapy. I never used to 'let go' of control enough for it to happen IN therapy either but it did the other day. No words involved this time. Just movements.

Una+ wrote:More often I don't notice anything but my therapist or my husband does notice and brings it to my attention


I don't know if it is noticeable to anyone around me. My therapist certainly didn't know until I said to him: I didn't do that. But then why would he - all I did was move my hand?

Una+ wrote:Lately, when I "come to" I don't notice myself but some other part of me does and I experience passive influence phenomena: suddenly my anxiety skyrockets along with depersonalization / derealization symptoms. It is an almost indescribable uh-oh moment.


Would you mind helping me to understand what you mean here? When you come to you are not in the body, an alter is but you experience their anxiety? Sorry if I got that completely wrong...

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Re: Time jumping

Postby Una+ » Fri Mar 02, 2012 8:23 pm

bourbon wrote:
Una wrote:Lately, when I "come to" I don't notice myself but some other part of me does and I experience passive influence phenomena: suddenly my anxiety skyrockets along with depersonalization / derealization symptoms. It is an almost indescribable uh-oh moment.

Would you mind helping me to understand what you mean here? When you come to you are not in the body, an alter is but you experience their anxiety? Sorry if I got that completely wrong...

I don't know if I am switching, but I am being triggered and I lose time and I don't notice that I have just lost time. So my subjective experience is that I have been there all along. However, I do feel a general system alarm. It has taken me a while to realize that the alarm is coming to me via passive influence. Someone in my system noticed the lost time, or maybe even experienced the trigger. My dissociative symptoms generally do not include seeming to leave my body. I do feel burning and numbness, and a sensation of being under water (distorted audio and visual effects). Is this clearer?
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Re: Time jumping

Postby bourbon » Sat Mar 03, 2012 2:26 am

Una+ wrote:Is this clearer?


As clear as it can be when I'm reading it at 2.30 in the morning. Thanks :)
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Re: Time jumping

Postby kadssdak » Sat Mar 03, 2012 4:04 am

I think we all get that to some extent i do alot the worst short one ive had was waiting for a train then next i knew i was on a train no memory of getting on nor any idea if it was the right 1
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Re: Time jumping

Postby bourbon » Sat Mar 03, 2012 8:36 pm

kadssdak wrote:I think we all get that to some extent i do alot the worst short one ive had was waiting for a train then next i knew i was on a train no memory of getting on nor any idea if it was the right 1


Yup. Ditto. Except I also apparnetly left my belongings behind on the station and never found them again =/
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