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How do you deal with DID non-believers?

Postby NicS » Thu Dec 08, 2011 6:45 am

How do you deal with someone who say's DID isn't a real diagnosis and doesn't like facts.

Were dealing with a far-right Christian conservative. She LOVES Jesus and hates all mental illness. They don't exist. ######6 idiot. Anyways, she's a ######6 pig, but other than that, in general, how do you deal with someone who doesn't believe that multiple personalities aren't a real thing, only something out of movies like Sybil or 12 Angry Men?
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Re: How do you deal with DID non-believers?

Postby pheonixrise » Thu Dec 08, 2011 10:44 am

If it's someone who believes they are right, I don't bother trying to convince them otherwise. If it's not someone I care about, they stop being part of my life. If it's someone I do care about, I just don't talk about it with them anymore, and will change the subject if they bring it up.

If it's someone who is simply ignorant of reality, I'll give them a run down of some of the basic stuff and see how they take it.

The thing I try to remember whenever dealing with people who don't believe it exists is that everyone has pride. When it's someone who is simply ignorant, if facts are presented aggressively, they'll stick to their ignorance cos they feel awful to "give in" to being told they're wrong (even though they are). When they're told gently, they're more likely to listen and take in what you're saying.

Sorry for how vague that all is.
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Re: How do you deal with DID non-believers?

Postby watcheroflights » Thu Dec 08, 2011 10:48 am

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The non believers in DID are the least of your worry if you have this disorder. No matter what is put forth you cannot change others peoples belief system. If your need is to be validated by such people you and others with mental disorders will always come up short in their eyes. Right now there is a conservative movement in the U.S. in running down those with DID, after the book Sybil exposed came out, to the extreme that mental illness across the board is not real. It's non-sense! Then again some of the loudest conservative speaking against DID and mental illness have had their own mental health issue. So what we can take from their position is their conditions were a lie and a fake too at least in their minds?
All I can say is quit expecting others to validate your DID. If you are being forth right and honest that is all that matters. You cannot control others behavior, you can only control your own. Me/We, when having to deal with such people simply try and treat them as one who has their own mental health issues with compassion. If their abuse and attacks become too much then I/we have the right to walk away and have no relationship with such people.
The way I look at it is I/we have to deal with this issue not them. Our healing starts with us not with others. Others validation of our existence is far less important than our own. So let it go and move on with your own healing and finding peace.
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Re: How do you deal with DID non-believers?

Postby NicS » Thu Dec 08, 2011 5:58 pm

Were not ######6 expecting anyone to validate anything! Were not a ######6 parking lot by the mall! We frankly just don't give a $#%^, we just wanted to know if there was a way to either convince them or just make them shut up. Ignoring NEVER works, long term, but short term, I think we'll head for pheonixrise's "Don't be snarky, be gentle" approach. That has always worked when proving people wrong... for us, at least.

And WHHHHHHHA?! THERES ACTUALLY A ######6 MOVEMENT TO SAY ALL MENTAL ILLNESS IS FAKE?! Oh yeah. Its called "Scientology", and its been going on for years. I don't know of any major conservative movements that would dare to say all mental illness is fake, because the irony would be too unbearable. Thats not a slight against you guys, watcheroflights, I don't mean to offend (really!), but this movement has existed in Scientology for eons (HAHAHAHAHA!!! That was a joke no one may get). But seriously, I haven't seen anyone from Fox News say all mental illness is fake.

As for that Sybil Exposed book, its a fascinating read. I've read a portion, and I do believe everything in it. She isn't attacking DID as an illness at all, she's just attacking Sybil's diagnosis. Thats the whole ######6 book, apparently, and the author is ######6 good at making her points. But, and we can't stress this enough, THE BOOK DOESN'T ATTACK DID AS A WHOLE. I think confusing the book with an Rush Limbaugh- style attack may piss off people on the forum for no ######6 reason. Its also the reason why I think that ######6 bitch conservative hack Jesus freak was trying to use that book as a one-up to her argument. She clearly hasn't read it. Maybe the back cover. But the book only goes into Sybil's case. Not much else, really.
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Re: How do you deal with DID non-believers?

Postby Kero » Thu Dec 08, 2011 6:04 pm

Wow...that was really well said!!!! Thanks Thomas Watcheroflights I needed that today.

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Re: How do you deal with DID non-believers?

Postby SheWhoMustNotBeNamed » Thu Dec 08, 2011 9:16 pm

If it were me, and I don't mean to tell you what to do, I would stay away from or not speak to those that do not have good intentions for you when speaking about this sort of thing. Mental health is a touchy subject for many people and others dismiss it without a second thought.

For many, mental health is not an issue. For some of us it's very real and a big deal.

I've actually been told it was all in my head. (Well, duh! That's why it's a mental illness. :roll: )

I think for those that believe in mental health, but not DID, they either 1) have had the perfect life with no emotional baggage or issues or 2) have issues but are in total denial, which to me, are one in the same.

No one has the perfect life, but there are some that are arrogant enough to think so. Good for them. Denial can be sweet bliss.
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Re: How do you deal with DID non-believers?

Postby watcheroflights » Thu Dec 08, 2011 10:09 pm

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You sayed:
"Were not ######6 expecting anyone to validate anything! Were not a ######6 parking lot by the mall! We frankly just don't give a $#%^"
If you do not care what these people think than you should have no issues.
We are sorry now that I answer your topic and tried to give advice.
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Re: How do you deal with DID non-believers?

Postby watcheroflights » Thu Dec 08, 2011 10:47 pm

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One other point I would like to make is that there is a conservative movement to discredit DID. The politics that is being played for extremist conservative interest with the DSMV, to do away with the DID disorder, are glaring and other mental disorders. Professionals have resigned from committees working on the DSMV, for this reason. Conservative movement wants it where no one with DID can get help for this disorder through government program. In addition where insurance company can refuse to cover the DID disorder all together. The next disorder that they are going after is PTSD after they do in the DID disorders which will not do well for our soldiers coming back from war. Mental health care will once again become the domain of the elite and wealthy. If you say this is not true than the state I live in is a very good example of what is happening. We do not put our mentally ill in mental health facilities, if they are poor or cannot afford treatment, we now just put them in our jails and prisons.
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Re: How do you deal with DID non-believers?

Postby NicS » Thu Dec 08, 2011 11:20 pm

watcheroflights wrote:If you do not care what these people think than you should have no issues.
We are sorry now that I answer your topic and tried to give advice.
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Well, when you put it that way, you make me look like a ######6 jackass. I do appreciate the comments, but the fact is we don't give a $#%^! We just wanted to know if there was a long term solution.
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