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Heavy Trauma VS Slight Trauma

Postby Mycchole » Wed Dec 07, 2011 12:35 am

So our Mychole (the host) feels that he didn't go through any trauma that's worth even creating alters for. He says that compared to many others who have been through many egregious things, he shouldn't have DID. So his question is; Can someone who has had neglect, slight sexual abuse and more of emotional abuse from parents create alters as a child?
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Re: Heavy Trauma VS Slight Trauma

Postby InfinitD » Wed Dec 07, 2011 12:45 am

I have heard of some that have DID from schoolhood bullying. And 2% supposedly had no trauma.
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Re: Heavy Trauma VS Slight Trauma

Postby LittleRedDogToo » Wed Dec 07, 2011 2:13 am

Sexual abuse isn't a must for DID. Nor is physical abuse. For example, the SA that I remember is extremely minor comparatively (although the T suspects it was much more significant than I remember due to what alters have said). There was very little physical abuse. However, there was extreme neglect and extreme emotional abuse. Although a lot of cases of DID do include sexual abuse and/or physical abuse it's not necessary to create the conditions that cause DID and other dissociative disorders.

I've also read that 4% of multiples are naturally born. I don't know much about that though.
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Re: Heavy Trauma VS Slight Trauma

Postby Mycchole » Wed Dec 07, 2011 2:34 am

Thanks guys for answering my question. I just always thought that my childhood wasn't always that bad but apparently it seemed to be enough for me, to change who I was. I had problems like many kids do, not as bad as others. Mine was both my parents would leave and enter into my life, and then my dad just left me without a goodbye and my mom would always live somewhere else with her boyfriends. It sounds harmless but apparently my mind didn't think it was right.

I was just blabbing but thank you for the answers. It really helped a lot ya'll.
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Re: Heavy Trauma VS Slight Trauma

Postby littlevine » Wed Dec 07, 2011 2:45 am

Mycchole,
That sounds very very sad and traumatizing to me, to have parents repeatedly abandon you. I don't know how old you were when this was happening, but a child needs her parents for physical survival. Emotional neglect is every bit as painful and damaging as physical abuse in my opinion.
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Re: Heavy Trauma VS Slight Trauma

Postby Johnny-Jack » Wed Dec 07, 2011 3:12 am

Mycchole said: "It sounds harmless but apparently my mind didn't think it was right."

Actually, it doesn't sound at all harmless. Surely you know how understated you made that sound.

Herschel Walker, one of the greatest running backs of all time, says that his own DID arose from childhood fears, not abuse. However, he did have a violent alter who nearly killed someone, so that seems odd but it's what he wrote in his biography. Chris Costner Sizemore (Three Faces of Eve) developed DID from seeing three gruesome accidents in a short period of time. These are two examples of persons with DID who say they were not abused. Still, it seems to me that if both had had really good parents, those parents would have noticed unhealthy behavior in their child and done everything they could to make sure they felt supported and safe.

Neglect of a child and that child's needs is abuse. All children need an environment of love and attention to develop into healthy adults. It's not even just a human thing. Our nearest relatives, the great apes, need exactly the same thing.
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Re: Heavy Trauma VS Slight Trauma

Postby MK91 » Wed Dec 07, 2011 3:58 am

Mycchole wrote:Can someone who has had neglect, slight sexual abuse and more of emotional abuse from parents create alters as a child?


Well, considering my boyfriend was never abused by his parents at all and he has DID, I'm going to go with yes. He was neglected as a child. The first four years of his life were spent in a car or hotels/motels traveling. When he was six his parents had a fight one night and called him a mistake (his father lied to his mother about being able to have kids). When he was eight he watched his father die while he was alone with him in a motel room, and that's where the majority of the splitting came from.

LittleRedDogToo wrote:I've also read that 4% of multiples are naturally born. I don't know much about that though.

HIM claims that he and Luke have always been there, before any of the later in life traumas that created the other alters. Luke seconds that saying that he remembers being "host" from birth to age six, but remembers hearing a second voice in his mind, and blacking out for periods of time during fist fights at school, and then coming to to find out that he'd beat someone up but had no recollection of doing so. So I'd say Johann was one of those 4%, that's why I just consider HIM and Luke both the core. They consider themselves a yin-yang who both balance out who Johann is, thus the host has a tendency to act like a combination of the two.
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Re: Heavy Trauma VS Slight Trauma

Postby bourbon » Wed Dec 07, 2011 4:46 pm

I go through this almost every day.

I have DID. I went through extreme emotional abuse (including weapons), physical abuse but i'm unaware of the severity and as you say: "slight sexual abuse". It tears me up A LOT to think that I have had such a severe reaction to mild events.

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Re: Heavy Trauma VS Slight Trauma

Postby Borg » Wed Dec 07, 2011 10:37 pm

IMHO, I don't think it's prudent to compare. What defines heavy vs slight? (not really asking openly as it would probably be triggering) Then with child, how where thier support networks? I imagine the less support networks/safe harbors the less one would be able to cope with, so one's slight is another's severe.
It seems like you belittle your experience, you went through alot. IMHO neglect =slow death. It's really bad to see it happen.
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Re: Heavy Trauma VS Slight Trauma

Postby feeling-empty » Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:10 am

I don't think ANY sexual abuse, slight or not, is just "light" trauma. That's scarring to a kid...That changes people for their entire lives.

TRIGGER I don't know from experience, but a lot of my friends were sexually abused by family members. They don't have DID, but they're definitely different people than they would have been without the abuse. END OF TRIGGER

I lived in fear of my abusive mother for my entire childhood, and I couldn't make friendships because people thought I was too wierd. This isn't that intense. I mean, my mom wasn't even that abusive. She went off the deep end sometimes, but my brother got it a lot worse than I did, both the abuse and the avoidance of his peers. And yet I'm the one with DID? Hm.

I guess those of us with slight trauma were just fragile kids.
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