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Stress-induced split in three? Is this possible?

Postby under ice » Sat Nov 19, 2011 10:06 pm

I've been thinking about this event as a possible split, but I'm not sure; then again, I'm not sure what else it could have been. So I'm asking you guys what do you think. I may have mentioned something about this before, I hope this isn't repetition. I can't remember, I could have only been thinking of making a post. :oops:

A few years back I was under a lot of stress, both long-term and acute, struggling with responsibilities and problems in my family. That night I was trying to get sleep after many sleepless nights. knowing that I have to go to work tomorrow and just when I thought I'll succeed, something happened that forced me to get up and stay up. It was too much for me, something snapped in my head, and I started to trash things and act in a berserk way. I reacted and felt like a beast that is being tortured.
This alone isn't my usual state of mind, but somehow I managed to "wake up" from that mode after a while and go back to bed regardless of everything. Immediately when I closed my eyes I felt someone touch my hand and when I opened them, I saw someone else. So, one of them was visible to me and the other one was tangible, and I was able to perceive only one at a time depending on whether my eyes were open or closed. This went on for a while, and I got certain vibes from these others: the one I could touch was extremely sad, and the other one that I could see was scary. He wasn't scary-looking, only just like a shadow but nevertheless scary and menacing. The scary one was somewhere far away although he looked like he was close to me. The sad one was close to me, and he was telling me to stop being angry. Even though I had already stopped. He was very cold, somehow, and young.

I've never met those two again, at least not knowingly. I've been thinking that maybe they were protectors that only surface when I'm on the edge, which hasn't happened ever since thank goodness. :roll:

Edit: I forgot to mention that R surfaced for the first time shortly after this event.
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Re: Stress-induced split in three? Is this possible?

Postby under ice » Sun Nov 20, 2011 8:55 am

Maybe I worded the title badly :P . It's possible since it happened to me. I should have asked, perhaps, if anyone shares the experience of perceiving parts as persons that are outside your body, while you're still fully conscious. I mean there were three of us, but I didn't understand that the other two were parts of me, they just appeared from somewhere and seemed to communicate to me without words.
A thought: perhaps when I pushed quickly away the negative feelings that were this time unbearably strong, they took form as others. I'm good at calming myself down instantly if something upsets me 'too much'. In fact, this makes a lot of sense.
I wonder if those two are waiting somewhere just in case I ever happen to hit the same level of desperation and fury as I did that night. I hope I don't have to find out.
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Postby neveralone » Sun Nov 20, 2011 10:55 am

Never heard of a stress induced split myeslf but seeing alters outside as other people is something that I experience all the time. Only when I'm alone though. They're much like any other person in the world but I know they come from in my head. I've never mistaken them for an actual person though, just so you know. And my lovely alters who are so kind to me and don't cause a lot of trouble please don't take offence to me calling you 'not actual people.' :D
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Re: Stress-induced split in three? Is this possible?

Postby under ice » Sun Nov 20, 2011 1:17 pm

Thanks for your reply neveralone, it's good to know that someone actually sees their others.
Sorry for being so vague in my description... I didn't mistake them for real people; I was alone and the door of my house was safely locked :D. Moreover I knew they couldn't have been real people because one of them was invisible yet he felt tangible because I felt him grab my hand, and the other one looked like a man-shaped shadow of some sort. I thought they were either hallucinations or some sort of "ghosts". I had no other explanation for them since I didn't know anything of dissociation then. Like some other times before when I had seen or felt, even heard a "someone", the whole event was unbelieveable, unexplainable to me and neveretheless so real that I had to accept it happened.
I didn't believe in ghosts and even less so nowadays, but I couldn't prove to myself they weren't ghosts.

Anyway I think I kind of answered my own questions here.
Maybe I used wrong terminology when I said stress induced splitting.. what I meant was a situation where a person is faced with extreme stress factors, and due to this parts either are created or they surface in that situation.
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Re: Stress-induced split in three? Is this possible?

Postby salted lipstick » Sun Nov 20, 2011 1:59 pm

Oh that's really unusual... I've certainly never seen any of my others appearing to be outside my body while I'm conscious...

In relation to stres-induced splitting, if one has the potential to split, they can split under any circumstances in which they feel they need to create another to help handle a situation...
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Re: Stress-induced split in three? Is this possible?

Postby under ice » Sun Nov 20, 2011 2:23 pm

Hey Salted Lipstick :), I've had that kind of nightly stuff happening to me earlier maybe all in all only six or seven times times in my entire life as far as I can remember. This was the only time I perceived two of them, and the second time I saw a human-like creature. Well, I've seen running men in the headlights from a car that is driving through a snowstorm but that doesn't count really. Other times I've seen moving lights and shadows at other times but those are slightly different, have nothing to do with tiredness or mood and could have something to do with migraine with no headache.
Now that I've searched some psychological explanations, it could well be that certain stressors trigger hypnagogic hallucinations for me. But considering the circumstances and the feelings I felt from them, I wanted to see if anyone has had anything like this.
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Re: Stress-induced split in three? Is this possible?

Postby salted lipstick » Sun Nov 20, 2011 2:29 pm

Well it's really good to hear that you are taking a pro-active approach to trying to work out what is going on for you. That is the most important thing. Once you can work out what it might be for you, you will be able to work out what to do to help make it less stressful. :D
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Re: Stress-induced split in three? Is this possible?

Postby under ice » Sun Nov 20, 2011 3:06 pm

Well, that's one reason why I am on this forum, to find answers.
I know that if the events I told about were usual in dissociation I would've read about similar things here.
I've seen a video on youtube with someone who has DID telling about actually seeing her alters a few times, but due to her way of speaking I didn't understand all of it.

Events like this don't have any major effect on my life. If I tell about them people think I made it up or that I'm nuts. Still from time to time I feel that I have to try to find out what caused them. I can't just accept them because they pertain to some 'mystery' in my life. It's the same with some irrational memories I have from my early childhood. And last but not least, experiences like this (among hundreds of other things) always seem to signal to me that I'm different from the normal population, and although I've learned to like it, it also makes me feel lonely and isolated from time to time. That's why I'm glad there are forums like this where you can share.
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Re: Stress-induced split in three? Is this possible?

Postby under ice » Sun Nov 20, 2011 3:23 pm

Now I managed to sound like I imagine there is a secret meaning to these things :P. I didn't mean it in a delusional way, just that it weirds me out that I've had those things happening to me in the first place, especially as they seem so unique. When I mentioned my irrational childhood memories, I was thinking of specidic memories and some habits I had that I've later learned are potential signs of sexual abuse. But that is not connected to this discussion, which has gone a little funny by now. :mrgreen:
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Re: Stress-induced split in three? Is this possible?

Postby Borg » Mon Nov 21, 2011 12:41 am

Hi,
Like some other times before when I had seen or felt, even heard a "someone", the whole event was unbelieveable, unexplainable to me and neveretheless so real that I had to accept it happened.

I've seen my alters before, well before I knew of DID, I thought I was just crazy, I still do really. Neway, if I do see them, it's mostly when I'm falling asleep or just waking up. It doesn't happen all the time, but I noticed when under extreme stress(such as dealing with my mom's erratic behaviour, she suffers from a DD) it'll 'act up.' I thought charlie and Mr.Lee were ghosts/imagination at first, I would see them as shadows mostly. I would look away or reality test to see where this was coming from, a play on light and shadows perhaps. So eventually I started asking questions internally, about them, and got answers internally, I asked them to keep it to dreams.

I do remember about tens years ago, I saw rider, for a brief second, it was frightening, I thought to myself that I wasn't ready to see him and he smiled and disappeared.

As a child, for about two years, when I slept, I would become 'paralyzed' and a monster would lay his body on top of me, I couldn't scream or move. I never saw him but felt his 'presence' and touch my body. I have no idea what this is from, but I told my mom and she just blew it off. The only way I learned to prevent this is if I wiggled till I fell asleep. It stopped inexplicably.

Another time after seeing a car crash, I had the same thing but the monster this time moved my head, I told my mom, and she just said, that the monster sounded like her and she didn't know I could remember the car crash since I was so young and sent me back to bed.(LOL she was a monster).

So I have a younger sister, who I believe suffers from a form of paranoid schizo., or some kind of paranoid delusion disorder, my mom is also delusional(she believes she's half alien, and has 'special powers', I could go on, and on). So I freak out when I see things as I do not want to be like my family. This whole thing is incredibly shameful/embarassing for me, so I don't like to talk much about it. :oops:
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