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Re: Difference between DID and MPD?

Postby Eisa » Sun Jan 01, 2012 3:43 pm

Well, we definitely split before age 7, I can tell you that much. And the core does seem to be split in some way. But...the closest thing I believe we have to an ISH is dreamer, who is a guardian angel, true, but is most definitely a girl. Not really allowed to talk about how she talks, as Sarah isn't really allowed to know much about her. :P


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Re: Difference between DID and MPD?

Postby SamsLand » Sun Jan 01, 2012 8:11 pm

pheonixrise wrote:As far as I knew, the biggest difference between MPD and DID is the name - I thought that DID was the name-changed, updated-with-new-knowledge version of MPD.

If I am understanding what the article writer is saying, then I disagree with a lot of what he's written. From my own experience, his definitions aren't quite correct. Our first split happened at 3 years old, yet we have an ISH. He goes into further detail about MPD later on, saying that to have it, a person must have had life-threatening trauma before age 7, had to be highly hypnotisable, had one "good" and one abusive parent, and been the only of all the siblings to be abused. He seems to say that you simply can not have DID if it starts before you are 7.

Again, from my own experience, these things don't make sense. I/we did split before age 7 - that's for sure. Both my parents were equally loving, and equally good at making honest mistakes. They cared for me and my siblings equally. My siblings (particularly sister) were all abused, as I was, and by the same person.

Then there's what he says an ISH is (in spoilers to take up less space):

[spoiler]
Characteristics of the Inner Self Helper (ISH)

A. Prime Directive of the ISH is to keep patient alive until her Life Plan is completed and fulfilled. The ISH will prevent suicide in any way possible.

B. Has no date of origin; has always been present.

C. Can only agape love; is incapable of hatred.

D. Has awareness of and belief in "The Creator."

E. Is aware that the Celestial Intelligent Energy (CIE) put her in charge of teaching this person how to live and move forward properly.

F. Is able to work on the inside of the patient's mind, as co-therapist, while the human therapist works on the outside.

G. Knows all about history of patient and can predict short term future.

H. Possesses no personal sense of gender identity, but will assume either gender the therapist is comfortable with.

I. Talks intellectually instead of emotionally, carefully chooses precise words, speaks in short concise sentences; prefers to answer questions; gives enigmatic instructions. ("Teach her humility today.")

J. Avoids using slang; does not have the capacity for put-downs or guilt-trips.

K. Is aware of patient's past lifetimes.
[/spoiler]

Many ISH's that I know or know of have a great deal of knowledge about the whole system and the life the "person" has had. Many also speak intellectually and are careful about what words and sentences they say. According to the author, ISHs are angels, placed by G*d/"The Creator" in the person to help them get through life. Now, while I wouldn't dare say that no ISH is an angel, mine is not, and none of my multiple friends have mentioned having an ISH that is an angel. Also, how does this work for a system where the ISH is atheist? Many ISH's that I know do have a preferred gender, and it's not whatever the T prefers them to be. I don't know how it is for others, but my ISH can hate, can put people down and guilt-trip people, but chooses not to. Myself and my ISH both believe in an afterlife, but not reincarnation - so how would K apply to us, and others with the same/similar belief?



Pheonixrise I think this is a wonderful post/topic! What do you think of reposting it as its own ISH thread? I feel it may be lost a bit/not seen here?

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Re: Difference between DID and MPD?

Postby pheonixrise » Tue Jan 03, 2012 5:18 am

Have browsed through the webpage a little more, and the more I read the less I believe him.

from: http://www.dissociation.com/2007/docRea ... %26ZAP.TXT

The basics of the article is that *all* people with multiple personalities can "sap" people's energy, and "zap" people with emotional, "ideational" and physical energy. His "proof" of this includes a time when, after dealing with an angry alter, he snapped at his wife when he got home and another time when, following helping a person deal with an angry alter, he got home and started bleeding from his GI tract. He was diagnosed with an acute stress ulcer - something he blames on the person he'd been helping to treat.
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Re: Difference between DID and MPD?

Postby Encircled » Tue Jan 03, 2012 1:22 pm

pheonixrise wrote:The basics of the article is that *all* people with multiple personalities can "sap" people's energy, and "zap" people with emotional, "ideational" and physical energy. His "proof" of this includes a time when, after dealing with an angry alter, he snapped at his wife when he got home and another time when, following helping a person deal with an angry alter, he got home and started bleeding from his GI tract. He was diagnosed with an acute stress ulcer - something he blames on the person he'd been helping to treat.


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Re: Difference between DID and MPD?

Postby SamsLand » Tue Jan 03, 2012 2:13 pm

yeah no kidding

I am more interested in the concept of the ISH, which is why I suggested a thread. It is an interesting thought. Because I am atheist but I may have an ISH. But if his stuff is crap then why not have atheist ISH??

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Re: Difference between DID and MPD?

Postby pheonixrise » Tue Jan 03, 2012 7:38 pm

@Sam, an ISH is an internal self-helper. It is simply an alter who helps you out and often sticks to staying inside (from what I know). Religion plays no part in it at all. You can start a thread on ISH's if you want to, and everyone will be able to give you some knowledge. :)
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Postby Kerry H » Tue Jan 03, 2012 9:33 pm

pheonixrise wrote:Have browsed through the webpage a little more, and the more I read the less I believe him.

from: http://www.dissociation.com/2007/docRea ... %26ZAP.TXT

The basics of the article is that *all* people with multiple personalities can "sap" people's energy, and "zap" people with emotional, "ideational" and physical energy. His "proof" of this includes a time when, after dealing with an angry alter, he snapped at his wife when he got home and another time when, following helping a person deal with an angry alter, he got home and started bleeding from his GI tract. He was diagnosed with an acute stress ulcer - something he blames on the person he'd been helping to treat.


I have a friend who is a cranial sacral therapist (nothing to do with DID) which works with people's energy field. I do believe people can affect anothers emotional energy/body. I only have to see the way people react when I walk into a room when I'm on too much of a high. I give off happy vibes that people can actually feel. But my friend was taught in her training that we all have the ability to keep our energy fields close to ourselves so others don't drain us and also that we can deflect others energy fields. It's just that most people don't know it's possible, never mind how to do it. Sounds like that doctor could do with learning how to safeguard himself, rather than blaming his clients. X
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Re: Difference between DID and MPD?

Postby pheonixrise » Wed Jan 04, 2012 2:17 am

^I absolutely believe that people are able to "sap" and "zap" people with energy, and that there are other ways that people can use energies.

But yeah, that doctor needs to stop blaming his patients for starters, and to shield if he's really that worried about it, but he also generalises, saying that *every single person with DID* is able to (and willing to) do that. That's what I particularly don't like about it.
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