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Re: Schizophrenia can become DID? NOT!

Postby Una+ » Tue Jan 10, 2012 3:38 pm

In all likelihood M. Scott Peck confused DID and DID-like DDNOS with schizophrenia. This is a very common mistake, made not only by laypeople but also by many trained mental health professionals.

I have read all of Peck's books. The Road Less Traveled, my favorite, was a great help to me in my first crisis over 25 years ago, but in one respect it set me back. Like all too many psychotherapists Peck seems to be utterly unaware of dissociation, and implicitly lumps dissociation with psychosis in the class of mental health issues that he labels "major psychopathy". Late in his career Peck even got involved in spirit exorcisms, so I have no doubt that he encountered people who were suffering from undiagnosed and mistreated DID. Reading his books I concluded (in error) that I must have a psychotic part but it seemed that I was able to encapsulate it and stuff it away and keep it stuffed. And in his books I saw no alternative to stuffing it! So that's what I did for over 25 years. And then one day in 2010 the containment failed. Oops.
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Re: Schizophrenia can become DID? NOT!

Postby Eisa » Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:42 pm

-facepalm- What an idiot. I know someone with paranoid schizophrenia who I had to spend a great deal of time with when he refused to take his meds (or didn't take enough of them or...something. Can't quite remember.) His symptoms were NOTHING like DID symptoms at all. It's a completely different disorder...and doesn't schizophrenia also have a genetic basis?
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Re: Schizophrenia can become DID? NOT!

Postby Greatexpectations » Tue Jan 10, 2012 9:53 pm

Una+, you could be right. I read 'The People Of The Lie' which started off well, but then as you say he got into spirit exorcisms, I don't believe in that sort of stuff.
I was disappointed as many chapters of the book were devoted to exorcisms.

"Like all too many psychotherapists Peck seems to be utterly unaware of dissociation".
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Re: Schizophrenia can become DID? NOT!

Postby quadretto » Tue Jan 10, 2012 10:20 pm

tylas,
you said you were reading "The haunted self"". In this book, they clearly describe that someone with dissociative disorder may have MORE of the Schneiderian symptoms", which are usually related to psychosis, than an actually psychotic person.

Also, they describe "dissociative psychosis", which is helped by therapy, not meds.

My mother was dx psychotic/schitz more than 10 years ago, and I'm quite sure that she has dissociative order instead. Views about these things have changed SO much in recent years...
I'm 48 years old. Being in trauma psychotherapy for 2 years, learned that I have DID, maybe close to DDNOS. Some child parts, persecutors, etc.
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Re: Schizophrenia can become DID? NOT!

Postby OMNICELL » Tue Jan 10, 2012 10:30 pm

Hmm.. Im not schizophrenic. I am D.I.D, I have heard real voice hallucinations, However, Nothing at the level of a true Schizophrenic. I don't think its at the level of Schizophrenia.

At the hight of dissociative disorder I was diagnosed at times as possible Schizophrenic. And people in the community thought I was Schizophrenic.

I believe one can take more then one road to become dissociative. However, I don t believe I was truly on the schizophrenic road as I was becoming severally dissociative. Or D.I.D.

Its an interesting idea...
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