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Body memories or self inflicted?

Postby Nix2887 » Mon May 02, 2011 9:47 pm

About 3 times a year, approx the same time each yeah i seem to acquire a black eye on my right side. My girlfriend has seen it appear out of nowhere, and i usually wake up with it. It disappears almost os quikly as it came taking about 1 day to fade and the swelling go down. IM just not sure if this is in fat a body memory, the pictures of some of the abuse i endured did show me with a black eye on that same side. My kid alter seems to be very afraid when this happens, but my protectors dont seem to be able to stop it. Does anyone else have similar instances? Or know what is happening or how to stop it?
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Re: Body memories or self inflicted?

Postby NicS » Tue May 03, 2011 5:11 am

I don't know the reason, but this sounds self inflicted. I honestly don't believe the body can produce "Body memories"; otherwise, every thanksgiving my head would cave in. (When I was 14 or so, my mother threw a turkey at my head, as a joke. It was unintentional, she was kidding around, but it slipped, and a 20 lbs turkey hit me on the head. Now I can balance flat stuff on the top-right side of my head. True story.)

This sounds like an alter waking up in the middle of the night, hitting you in the eye, and going back to sleep. What happened on those 3 specific dates? Do you have an alter that is self-loathing? Try to figure those two out, and get back to me; I'd love to help you out.

I honestly think your girlfriend bought a Slap-Chop, modified it, and is ######6 with you.
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Re: Body memories or self inflicted?

Postby NeedHelp1234 » Tue May 03, 2011 6:44 am

Hey "funny man". Do you really believe your babble has helped anyone thus far? I suggest you crawl back into your hysterical little cave and leave the sarcastic "advice" where you found it. You want the freedom to speak your mind? Follow the f***ing rules like the rest of us and get with the program. Freedom of speech here is not a right, it is a privilege.

Body memories do happen. Our body's hands went numb during a rape flashback she had a few days ago. Her arms where pinned at her sides and all the blood was cut off at her biceps down to her arms at the time of the original incident. It was almost impossible to feel them and it was f***ing stressful when she experienced it again and we were not ready for it. Black eyes and physical changes such as blood rushing to the skin, bruising, or any visual damage would had to have been made by yourself or an alter. Sensations and memories that the body has had pain in a way without SHOWING it is much more common. I would ask around your system and see where that gets you.
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Re: Body memories or self inflicted?

Postby NicS » Tue May 03, 2011 3:04 pm

Katariina wrote:Hey "funny man". Do you really believe your babble has helped anyone thus far? I suggest you crawl back into your hysterical little cave and leave the sarcastic "advice" where you found it. You want the freedom to speak your mind? Follow the f***ing rules like the rest of us and get with the program. Freedom of speech here is not a right, it is a privilege.

Body memories do happen. Our body's hands went numb during a rape flashback she had a few days ago. Her arms where pinned at her sides and all the blood was cut off at her biceps down to her arms at the time of the original incident. It was almost impossible to feel them and it was f***ing stressful when she experienced it again and we were not ready for it. Black eyes and physical changes such as blood rushing to the skin, bruising, or any visual damage would had to have been made by yourself or an alter. Sensations and memories that the body has had pain in a way without SHOWING it is much more common. I would ask around your system and see where that gets you.


Well, Jack, its nice to know you have a voice. So, let me introduce myself. My name is Character Nic. Its a name we agreed on when we realized, son of a bitch, I'm funnier. But I'm not going to be here, this is serious. And even though I don't take your sarcastic/contradictory comment as a compliment, I do appreciate that people recognize I am funnier than Nic. So thanks, ya jackass.

Second, I didn't know what body memories are, and it is my fault for not researching it, but there is a fine line between "Black Eye" and "Rape". This is a comparison of crimes, and even though I'm not saying mines worse than yours, your still not gonna take it lightly, so here it goes: A comparison of a so called "Black Eye Body memory" vs. a "Rape Body memory" is the same as stating "A UFO probed me": There is no evidence and people think your crazy, to the point that the FOX network green-lights a TV sitcom on your story called "Family Guy". But, hell, even Wikipedia says, quote:

Body memory is a hypothesis that the body itself is capable of storing memories, as opposed to only the brain. This is used to explain having memories for events where the brain was not in a position to store memories and is sometimes a catalyst for repressed memories recovery.

In essence, body memories are a theory not yet proven by anyone, only hypothesized. Its an excuse for why an injury appears every year on that one spot, and I have the real answer: Survivor guilt, a DSM-Recognized disorder where the survivor of an event leading to a black eye or something more grandiose such as Rape, and quote:
Survivor, survivor's, or survivors guilt or syndrome is a mental condition that occurs when a person perceives him- or herself to have done wrong by surviving a traumatic event when others did not. It may be found among survivors of combat, natural disasters, epidemics, among the friends and family of those who have committed suicide, and in non-mortal situations such as among those whose colleagues are laid off. The experience and manifestation of survivor's guilt will depend on an individual's psychological profile. When the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders IV (DSM-IV) was published, survivor guilt was removed as a recognized specific diagnosis, and redefined as a significant symptom of posttraumatic stress disorder (PTSD).
(Wikipedia)

Here, Nix is guilty about some bulls**t that happened 3x a year, and a part of him feels guilty about what happens, so that part that feels guilty punishes him for it. That ######6 simple. Your argument has more holes than Donald Trumps "Vietnam" story, and like Donald Trump, your a giant ass, too. And guess what? I use humor to cope. So if I offended Nix, I'll happily apologize; Nic was legitimately trying to help, and I said something inappropriate. I'll accept that, and be a bigger person, something you won't be able to do, Jack. But if I offended you, pull your head out of your ass, take a shower, and once your clean on the outside, start working on your mental state, cause honestly, a comment like the one you posted above has more survivor guilt in it than 2 parents leaving a Justin Beiber concert outside Auschwitz.

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Re: Body memories or self inflicted?

Postby NeedHelp1234 » Tue May 03, 2011 8:50 pm

The day I take bullsh*t from a pissant from Boise will be on my death bed.

You think you're (and I say "you're" as "you are" and not "your", if you read a book you could tell the difference) being coy and "funny" but you're not. You are on a forum strictly made up of survivors. Mocking them won't give you any sympathy. Oh, so sorry about your mommy getting a little hand-happy with you by the way. I'll start feeling bad for you, starting now.

The rest of my post was directed towards the original poster, and not your self-centered ass. I really hate to put one's issues over another because everyone's pain is pain and not to be rated as severe or less severe, but you my friend have got it made. I wish all our mommy did was hit us with a turkey, or throw a swing now and again. How is Martha Stewart by the way?

Get your pathetic narcissistic ass off this forum if you cannot follow the general f*cking rules we all abide by. Let your balls drop, and come back to me when you're a man. I don't argue with children.
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Re: Body memories or self inflicted?

Postby Nix2887 » Tue May 03, 2011 9:04 pm

Well this was all very interesting. And no i wasn't offended! I will ask around and see if any of my alters know how this might be happening to me.. but from past conversations non of them are willing to admit to it. And my little Kohlman is deathly afraid after it happens and usually says it was "MIKE" who did it, now I'm starting to think he might mean MIKE an alter I am unaware of, and not the abuser from my past...
I will let you know if anything new arises with this situation.
thanks again.
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Re: Body memories or self inflicted?

Postby NeedHelp1234 » Tue May 03, 2011 9:08 pm

Good luck with finding out the truth as to what's going on. Mike could be a generalized name for the alter, as in no connection to the abuser, or it could be he was created with that similar connection. It is not unheard of. That being said, if you find out where the black eyes are coming from, you should make an agreement to stop them with whoever is doing it if possible.
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Re: Body memories or self inflicted?

Postby canolime » Tue May 03, 2011 10:14 pm

It certainly could be an alter causing the bruises, but body memories are real, and from what I've read, they can produce bruises.

NicS wrote:otherwise, every thanksgiving my head would cave in.

Having a turkey accidentally hit you in the head, isn't even close to being on the same level as being beaten, raped, etc.

NicS wrote:I honestly think your girlfriend bought a Slap-Chop, modified it, and is ######6 with you.

Not helpful.

And try citing somewhere more reliable than Wikipedia. Anyone can add anything to it (that's why you're not allowed to use it for school papers). Body memories are real.

NicS wrote:So thanks, ya jackass.

And by the way, you've received a warning. You're allowed to have your own opinions, but you're not allowed to be rude or antagonizing. If you can't be helpful and supportive, please don't say anything at all.
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Re: Body memories or self inflicted?

Postby NicS » Tue May 03, 2011 10:25 pm

I knew C.Nic had posted this morning, but not this.

Jack, I am so, SO SO sorry if he pissed you off. Should you meet him in person, you have my permission to kick his ass. Also, no, he wasn't funny at all here. I'm sorry.
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Re: Body memories or self inflicted?

Postby raoul_duke » Tue May 03, 2011 10:45 pm

Nic. Listen kiddo. I imagine you're trying to help. I know you want to make people laugh, and that's great, but maybe you should work on your delivery a bit. It might be a good idea to be a little less in-your-face about things around here. You've come across as a bit impudent on a few occasions now. It's ok to speak your mind, but maybe you should work on the way you express yourself so that you seem less contentious.

Edit: I see that things have resolved and I've arrived too late. Disregard. Also, canolime, please stay out of my head. :lol:
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