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DID and Religions???

Postby RayRx » Sat Dec 11, 2010 7:53 am

Are there any relation between the inners (alters, I don't like to call them alters :() and religions?

Here are my story, I have an inner that taught me Buddhism. I found out later that the Buddhism knowledge that my inner told me, is true. Some knowledge I still cannot find the reference though. I was born in the country that main population believe in buddhism but I am not consider myself as religious. I am atheist. Some knowledge that my inner told me, they are more like deep, ancient and pure knowledge which are not easy to access. I don't really know where all the knowledge came from because I am sure myself that I never learn and hear them before. I am a host so I am the most who in charge this body. I remember I learned about Buddhism when I was young but they were an easy and general info.

Do you have anything like this happen to you that your inners have some knowledge that you don't really know where they are from?
I want to be able to accept "life" as it is.
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I want to be able to find a peaceful mind in the whole world.
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Re: DID and Religions???

Postby canolime » Sat Dec 11, 2010 8:59 am

They are separate parts of you, so they can learn about Buddhism, without you learning about it. You are the host, but that does not mean you are always aware of everything. The inner could have learned about it while you were not around :wink: You could ask the inner where he/she learned about Buddhism.

RayRx wrote:Do you have anything like this happen to you that your inners have some knowledge that you don't really know where they are from?

Yeah, and it used to scare me (before I knew about DID) when they knew something I didn't. I couldn't pretend the voices were my thoughts, if they knew something I could not know :P
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Re: DID and Religions???

Postby smallcat » Sat Dec 11, 2010 8:20 pm

Hello,

Yah, same here. We managed to, as a whole, collate large quantities of knowledge on all religions... and different opinions on it all >.< I'm a staunch atheist, Heather leans towards buddhism, or is at least theist. Emily is atheist, but has agnostic tendencies, shall we say. Vivian was brainwashed into Christianty through a number of traumatic incidents both before and after being locked away (she still listens, just can't ever take front). So yeah. I empathise. Jen.
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Re: DID and Religions???

Postby Aecy » Mon Dec 13, 2010 4:43 pm

It played a role with me, I admit.

I would like to mention that a LOT. of what my friend described about Buddhism actually corresponds to my own dissociative experience. I tend to think, due to personal observation, that much of the practice of emptying one's self and meditating and such is actually dissociation. As such, well. Dissociative individuals would tend to be more adept at it.

But that's simply my own perspective on the matter. I don't know enough about the deeper details of it to be sure.

Just that it echoes with much of the sort of brain-breakage "reality has ceased to make sense, does not compute, does not compute." sort of things that caused much of my splits

But I definitely know that the way my parents went about trying to indoctrinate us to prevent/combat secular indoctrination... well. Let's just say that at the age of 13, focusing on crap about genocides and communism and the most depressing, horrific, terrible things about humanity... didn't... exactly... have a positive effect on me. Nor did the "I'm trying to be perfect/I want god to make me perfect because I want my parents to love me" thing I wasn't aware of, or the perpetual fear that God hated me and was as vindictive and double-faced as my parents, and... yeah. Religion isn't at fault, but the way it was manipulated and used within my house growing up has brought me to the conclusion that I don't really know a damned thing about it and so I'm not going to bother anymore.

I'm... an agnostic/apathist. I don't know enough to know, I don't see that anyone else does, and I'm not really sure I give a crap anymore. That, and, well. Turns out I wasn't talking to God at all and I wasn't possessed, either. It was all just alters. Internal communication and control crap. I'm done trying to seek answers in that way, at least for a long while. x_x It really only made my life a living hell.

All the same, I will append that by saying I don't believe it's wrong, I just... don't know. And it hurts my system too much to bother with it anymore.
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Re: DID and Religions???

Postby Collingwood » Tue Dec 14, 2010 6:17 am

Yeah, they will say or purport whatever they like, and it is just fine with me that they do. They can believe what they want and share with me if they would like. My role, as I see it, is just to take note of where and when it is opinion and intuition on their part - ie, where there is no way to falsify what they are saying or where it does not seem to draw on any of their own experiences that I can verify have actually happened.

I would rather engage in dialogue - how did you come to learn this and why do you believe it if you don't know its true for sure? And if you know its true, how and when did you come to know this? Can you give me an example that will persuade me, if you think its true of both of our worlds and experiences, therefore something I might benefit from understanding?

At this point, its just opinion and hunches.

Here, we live in our imaginations, which are real in a sense and unreal in a sense. The bottom line is that we do not know and the answers are not out there for convenient selection. But we learned this the hard way :D it is very hard to have to abandon a belief you realize you didnt properly question enough in the first place. My alters provided me with a lot of information I didn't question enough. It was difficult for me to step back and let go and be able to stand on my own, that I, nor they, knew anything for sure.
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Re: DID and Religions???

Postby RayRx » Tue Dec 14, 2010 11:06 am

Thanks guys. Because from your opinions, I just finished the thought battle with my inner. She really want me to believe in Buddhism so her belief affect on my belief. Now we agree on I let her believe on what she want and if she want me to believe that she has to find a scientific way to explain me. She has no right to affect on my belief. Not really sure how much we can do either. :?
I want to be able to accept "life" as it is.
I want to be able to understand what the life is.
I want to be able to find a peaceful mind in the whole world.
For on and on I just want to be a warm welcome home.
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Re: DID and Religions???

Postby manyfacesofus » Wed Dec 15, 2010 2:44 am

Hi everyone, it's been a while since I have been around. I needed a break.

I have always wanted to learn Buddhism, but is it cansidered a religion. I am against more or less . I do have a few parts that are religious while I am nothing. I just don't believe in controlled religioun , nit it's no big deal that these parts believe in some kimd of a higher power.

I hope things work out for you!

Happy Holidays to you all!!


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Re: DID and Religions???

Postby cuteclevermonster » Wed Dec 15, 2010 7:38 am

Bright Eyes here

Amy is catholic and explains things of her religion to me, she's really only like, part catholic because there are parts hwere she disagrees with catholoisicm but she has many many traditions and everything of their litany is familar to her but not so to me. it's strange.

I'm a christian of a prodistant denomination and you would be surprised how many things are different from the two prespectives. Shirley doesn't understand some of it I don't know what she believes I don't think she knows yet.


yes I do, I know I don't know. that's knowing. i'm on a journey, smelling roses. touch off.

I believe in God. I believe in Antelope's God, i just believe in a different way than she believes.

so, yes, there are differing perspectives from within, although in our case they are rather similar. more alike than different perhaps. The Inners, that's a good name for them. I might use that.

yeah, better than alters, works for me.

Oh, this is Amy, I was going to add that I am as one who grew up catholic and retains traditions yet believes closer to that of a Protestant, with the exception of the saints, which are not as gods but as ancestors and advisers from a looser view of the past. --

phew. ok I translated that as best as I could, adding transitions and extra "English" words, i.e I constructed a correct English sentence out of only core-concept words Amy said to me. her voices is light and smooth, like the memory of the color purple.
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Re: DID and Religions???

Postby RayRx » Thu Dec 16, 2010 9:52 am

cuteclevermonster wrote:The Inners, that's a good name for them. I might use that.

yeah, better than alters, works for me.

I like to call them the inners because they are parts of me and eventually we are one.
I want to be able to accept "life" as it is.
I want to be able to understand what the life is.
I want to be able to find a peaceful mind in the whole world.
For on and on I just want to be a warm welcome home.
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Re: DID and Religions???

Postby obsolete » Fri Dec 17, 2010 10:34 pm

N and I are atheist. E is Norwegian Asatru. I'm not sure how serious he is in that. I used to be vaguely Christian but that's changed over the years.
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