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Re: Pleasurable?

Postby gwilly » Tue Aug 24, 2010 2:25 pm

Vivienne wrote:Thank you for the insight gwilly.. I imagine most people experience dissociation perhaps in the way you do.

I find daydreaming pleasurable and not to be a problem. I think that exemplifies my curiosity. I feel better daydreaming as myself but my friend has a dissociative personality she apparently slips in to whenever things where stressful. She describes herself as being in touch with reality. Is that still dissociative? I am very curious as to the responses.


It might be a dissociated identity, or an alter. Which is a little different than dissociation by itself. Some alters are well grounded and are in fact in touch with reality. So it's like a dissociation without a dissociative experience in a way I guess? To her alter that might be reality.

I was talking more about the hazy foggy feeling where you feel distant like you don't have a body, not necessarily a full alter switch.
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Re: Pleasurable?

Postby Vivienne » Tue Aug 24, 2010 2:33 pm

I'm not sure if she's dissociative or using an alter. She has the ability to be in an entirely stressful situation and dissociate (as such) and laugh about it?

I may be on the wrong track but she certainly exhibits dissociative symptoms in the sense she isn't in touch with reality at all::?
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Re: Pleasurable?

Postby Vivienne » Tue Aug 24, 2010 2:37 pm

Absurdly she enjoys the dissociative state.
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Re: Pleasurable?

Postby gwilly » Tue Aug 24, 2010 2:38 pm

This is interesting. Sounds like we have some semantic confusion going on here. :D Getting out of my league haha.
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Re: Pleasurable?

Postby Vivienne » Tue Aug 24, 2010 2:41 pm

Lol! I'm just doing my best to understand it.

She seems to love not facing reality. Why?
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Re: Pleasurable?

Postby josh_alters » Tue Aug 24, 2010 2:45 pm

Maybe reality is to much for her due to a past unpleasant experience.
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Re: Pleasurable?

Postby gwilly » Tue Aug 24, 2010 2:46 pm

Vivienne wrote:Lol! I'm just doing my best to understand it.

She seems to love not facing reality. Why?


It's hard to say. Maybe some more backstory could help. There's a lot of possible scenarios that could be going on there.
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Re: Pleasurable?

Postby Vivienne » Tue Aug 24, 2010 2:48 pm

That's what I've been thinking Josh Alters.

I was hoping I could identify something in that others who dissociate feel the same way. I don't know if she's unique or if I'm just inept at dealing with her.

Dissociation in itself fascinates me. I desire to understand what others are willing to give.
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Re: Pleasurable?

Postby Vivienne » Tue Aug 24, 2010 2:52 pm

I attempt to help her with basic solutions most people have provided her with.

She constantly tell me she dissociates, By that I mean she says she never focuses on herself and she uses other means to express her emotions.

I want to help her. How?
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Re: Pleasurable?

Postby gwilly » Tue Aug 24, 2010 2:55 pm

Vivienne wrote:That's what I've been thinking Josh Alters.

I was hoping I could identify something in that others who dissociate feel the same way. I don't know if she's unique or if I'm just inept at dealing with her.

Dissociation in itself fascinates me. I desire to understand what others are willing to give.


The thing is, dissociation as a class so to speak, is very broad. That's probably why you are getting various answers. In the case of alters, some people learn to work with them and have good experiences with them, but that goes pretty far beyond only dissociation.

So it isn't that she is unusual, just that she is in a rather specific scenario.
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