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Postby John21 » Tue Oct 09, 2007 6:48 am

what is hate?

HATE: to dislike intensely or passionately; feel extreme aversion for or extreme hostility toward; detest: to hate the enemy; to hate bigotry.


hate is to dislike with an extreme passion, to let your passions get the better of you. to abandon all thought and rationality and let yourself be overcome by the pure unbridled rage. but why? what good does hating people ever bring? if you hate someone, then you want them gone, so maybe you just want them out of your life. but what if they were never in your life?

an example

at work the other day some guy comes in with a busted laptop, asks how to fix it, i tell him its too costly buy a new one instead. he then gets angry (this is acceptable) and tells me how the computer was stolen from him a year ago, the theif just died in a car wreck and police found this in his home and gave it back. so yeah, this guy has the right to be upset, he was a victim and then without ever getting his justice, justice was later delivered but at the cost of no reward to the victim, so he feels cheated twice. so its understandable hes angry

enter stage left, the average joe. this guy comes in only to hear the part of the conversation where he gets the following message "computer stolen, thief died in car wreck". and what was his reaction? first words out of his mouth "GOOD ######6 RIDDANCE! IM GLAD THAT ######6 THIEF IS DEAD". this average joe, went from a regular day to being sparked into a bloodlust just off that one little bit of information that he got without knowing any of the story. the second guy's sudden joy for the death of a man he doesnt even know sparked the first guy to go into the same sort of thing. it was like watching wildfire spread, before i knew it i had a mini riot of 2 guys cheering on the death of this so called thief....how....how can you be happy that someone is dead? and how can you be happy when you dont even know the person, how can someone hate like that? i just dont understand humanity. i understand killing for necessity, i understand strong dislikes towards people, and using murder as a punishment. but i dont understand enjoying death. especially that of someone you dont know.


heres the facts that i know.... the "victim" turns out to be a meth head that probably attracted the wrong company to begin with, and his computer was stolen by another tweaker.

the thief....how do we know the dead guy is the thief? he could just as easily be the person the thief sold the computer to to get some cash... and your hating an innocent person




ok thats the end of my long post here....hate, how can people hate? and why do they hate? it scares me...society thinks that DID is scary...imo DID thinks society is scary.
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Postby Harri » Tue Oct 09, 2007 4:59 pm

I don't understand society either. Sometimes it's like a circle of hate, when I realise how much I detest society for functioning this way, and then realising that I am hating, continuing the circle of hate. can't escape it. it's incredibly hard NOT to hate.

You're right - it IS scary!
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Postby lalalark2 » Tue Oct 09, 2007 6:12 pm

This is an interesting topic.
My parents raised us not to hate. Hate was a very bad word in our house and if we used it we had to explain why we used it and then our mouths were washed out with soap.
The first time I used it, meant it, and was not punished for using it was to describe the feelings I had for one of the perpetrators who abused me. Both my mom and dad agreed and I was allowed to say it in that regard.
The funny thing about this is my parents are SUPER laid back. I hardly got punished for anything when I was growing up, and this was one we ALWAYS got punished for.
I think it taught me tolerance, and kindness and that words are just as powerful as actions in the right context.
To me Hate is the opposite of Love, and I would much rather preach love and kindness than hate and intolerance.
Sorry for so much sappiness here...
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Postby John21 » Tue Oct 09, 2007 7:02 pm

i'd say the biggest problem is everyone wishing for love and peace in the world. because we all want world peace, everyone to be happy, but thats not in our nature. human nature is based upon competition. to be the best, to survive and spread your genes. in our case survival is almost guarantied, you can be a lazy homeless person on the corner and not worry about starving to death or dying to the elements. so we dont have to put all of our effort towards survival which is a struggle to be the best....so we apply that effort and that struggle to be the best financially. if someone steals from you, then you are going to go back to your primal nature, you feel your survival is being challenged so you are going primal. naturally people will hate thieves then. now im sure a lot of you are thinking "hey, i dont apply my effort towards being the best financially, im just fine with my average paying job that gives me enough to live comfortably on". and to that i say you have reached your goal of "survival", your struggle is over and you are just maintaining it. based upon personal values some people struggle till they have a minimum wage job and a place to live, others struggle for millions of dollars. and with this we breed our primal emotions of hate. so i suppose the reason why we hate is because we feel our modern day survival is being threatened in some manner. and though we hate to admit it, we are just a bunch of monkeys all competing to be the alpha male/female.

hate is a very easy thing to control though, always ask questions, always look at all sides of an issue. never jump to conclusions.... it just suprises and scares me that so few people actually look at all sides of an issue before making a judgement.
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Postby BENNY » Wed Oct 10, 2007 6:31 am

ya, i think we have an advantage over singletons when it comes to things like that. we always see things from different perspectives. cool, it reminded me of the old days when "all you needed was love" and people lived communally. we stood together for peace, against hate and war. we took care of the land, instead of destroying it. i miss that part of my past. those were great times. it pissed off a lot of people though. imagine that, getting pissed over peace and love. man, i don't understand the outside world either. a lot of it just doesn't make sense. hey! maybe we sould start a revolution! :lol: oh well, it a tought.

peace & love
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Postby DaRkStaR » Wed Oct 10, 2007 11:59 am

Holding anger is a poison.

It eats you from inside.

We think that hating is a weapon that attacks the person who harmed us.

But hatred is a curved blade.

And the harm we do, we do to ourselves.



* An Irish Prayer *

May those who love us, love us;

And those who don't love us,

May God turn their hearts;

And if he doesn't turn their hearts,

May he turn their ankles,

So we'll know them by their limping!
The less I seek for some definitive, the closer I am to fine
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Postby John21 » Wed Oct 10, 2007 5:10 pm

benny your a silly hippy :P

i've found that the general hate for hippies is because of several key factors that create the stereotypical hippy

1. bathing in petui...pettuli....whatever that horrid smelling stuff is
2. not bathing
3. only preaching love and peace cause your high as a kite retarded on pot

and sadly a lot of hippies were just that, im not saying you were benny :). but the reason people dislike hippies so much i think is cause of the horrid smells and the fact that they were just high all the time. but yeah, it would be nice to have peace and love but its unattainable on a global scale.

"the bigger the community the worse it gets" a friend told me that, and you couldnt be more right. a nce smallsville town has the best community, new york has the worst. and not just cause theres more people to create more mischief, like everyone always argues "well theres no crime in your small town cause theres only 10 people!", which has some truth, but if you compare crime % to population you wll find that the crimerate is exponential and thus its not just cause big citys have more people, its cause the closer you cram everyone together the more conflicts arise.


btw benny keep up the paintings you ROCK! *off topic*
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Postby BENNY » Wed Oct 10, 2007 6:35 pm

It's called patchouly, and you're right if you don't get the right kind (from india) it does stink. A lot of us thought it hid the smell of pot, so that's another reason it stunk. But, when you're high all the time who cares. Ha Ha :lol:
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Postby John21 » Wed Oct 10, 2007 9:30 pm

yeah, and to my knowledge even if you get the right stuff, it still smells bad, and your suppost to use very little, i've come across hippies that smell like htey took a bath in it.

being high = being dumb

im not saying your stupid for getting high, just that when high you definately arent the sharpest knife in the drawer. and since hippies are high most of the time, that means theyre stupid most of the time, and with most people having a strict policy on ignoring stupidity, thats probably why the hippy movement failed. had the hippies been drug free and sent the same message, then no doubt it would have had a larger impact on the world. oh and dont argue with me with the "but when im high im so much smarter and more alert" yes drugs have different effects on people, but there are some effects that are indisputable. pot is a tranquilizer and an appetite booster. tranqs slow you down, they dont speed you up. you may feel you have a greater understanding or are smarter, maybe pot gives you better focus but it does nt make you smarter :D

those are my nosey opinions and im proud to have them lol. much <3
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Postby BENNY » Thu Oct 11, 2007 11:36 pm

i've been clean & sober over 12yrs. (not looking for a pat on the back, just a fact) i think one of the reasons i was attracted to drugs is it does make you stupid. stupid enough to tolerate people around me. another reason was to dissociate from "the voices", the other alters that wouldn't shut up. a source of freedom from my own head and others. the one problem i didn't anticapate was the drug controlling me. that was worse than the alters i couldn't understand, taking controll. another bad is it eventually kills you. i guess i figured the f'n marry-go-round in my head was better than death. i don't want to die without a fight.

that is a part of us that must be coded in with human nature. i fought for my life many times, only to regret it later. " why didn't i let them kill me, it would all be over then." but no, there was that one final thread that refused to die. i'm sure it must have something to do with splitting.

maybe hate is is a struggle between primal nature and intellectual reasoning. i have noticed that people with "normal" up bringings do not litteraly mean a lot of things they say. compared to thoughs of us that had to live through the horrific, primal evil of others. i guess they don't have anything to compare it with.

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