Is this possible? (controlled split)

ok so we have determined 'Maddie' was a an integration of many past social hosts (hosted 30's to mid 40'son a daily basis...before awareness of being a system)

we know one part of her struggled with moving past the point of incorrect diagnosis (of MS) and was unable to see the body had recovered some ability.

'Maddie' fell apart after the death of our last dog. (who she had seen as her assistance dog) .we suspect the parts all split back apart to be individuals which is why when peri-menopause started it triggered several seperate alters to come out as individual.

Fast forward many years (10+) and the body experienced a stroke...Teen S finds stuck out at the front, with only memories of a vivd hallucination (NDE) and mostly memories of life between 8-15yrs old... her inital (within first week or two of stroke) goes well and she seems to be ok..she manages to re-connect to rest of system & other 'fragments' integrate with her and she becomes 'Yuna' ..after which suddenly she reverts back to being stuck at point of stroke unless another alter (specifically the one she named Juno..who later became Kate) is helping her by controlling the weak side.


Is it possible that the same part that was once integrated with Maddie and caused Maddie to be stuck at a similar point....has re-integrated into the 'Yuna' mix and is now causing similar problems for her???

We are wondering whether to suggest Teen S split from the other fragments that make up Yuna to see if her fronting alone makes a difference? ..in which case we would know for sure it was one of the other smaller parts/fragments thats causing the problem? ..or whether it was infact Teen S just refusing to do things unless she has Kate's attention on her?

Is a 'controlled split' possible to test this theory?


Jay

TheTriForce wrote:Is it possible that the same part that was once integrated with Maddie and caused Maddie to be stuck at a similar point....has re-integrated into the 'Yuna' mix and is now causing similar problems for her???

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Is a 'controlled split' possible to test this theory?

Yes, it is possible that some part of Maddie has become part of Yuna. With Alice, we realize that parts of Marcus are part of her, but she understands she can't hurt others especially in the system.

As for a 'controlled split', we have no idea, sorry.

Violette

ViTheta wrote:

TheTriForce wrote:Is it possible that the same part that was once integrated with Maddie and caused Maddie to be stuck at a similar point....has re-integrated into the 'Yuna' mix and is now causing similar problems for her???

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Is a 'controlled split' possible to test this theory?

Yes, it is possible that some part of Maddie has become part of Yuna. With Alice, we realize that parts of Marcus are part of her, but she understands she can't hurt others especially in the system.

As for a 'controlled split', we have no idea, sorry.

Violette

Thanks for answering. How did you deal with Alice?

By a 'controlled split' we mean...simply seeing if Teen S could seperate from the other parts that hadn't originally been part of her and then see if she would auto take control of BOTH sides of the body as soon as she came to the front alone (& without Kate being blended with her).

That could confirm I guess that it wasn't Teen S alone and maybe 'passive influence' from another part that had blended to give 'Yuna' additional life memories??...but we haven't worked out where we would go from there to identify the exact part responsible.

We know Teen S herself was never part of the ones that made up Maddie cos Bobby was also seperate and said Teen S and LS both remained seperate inside.

Jay

Kate rarely interferes or imposes her theories on us about what she thinks but as she believes she's an outside spirit that joined the system later we asked her to front and write her views in our personal diary..we won't share it all but she does have the belief that our integrations aren't working because the wrong ones are trying to integrate!

Her belief is that I am a split off Bobby because of my musical talents in early life and I was created to deal with the social aspects of music lessions that Bobby was unable to cope with.

Kit is a split off Bobby because ironically Bobby's autism was too severe to be able to cope in an autism unit surrounded by other autistic people ..(we were effectively all triggering each other).

Kate also believes Teen S is an original teen part as without the additional parts that make up Yuna she was the shy, timid nervous part that LS discovered and named her Animal Crossing character after when LS first started to come out more and revealed the presence of Teen S. Little Susie was Kate's (in her past life capacity as our mum) vision of 'the perfect child' so therefore a child social mask alter for Bobby.

Kate believes the parts that should be integrated at the front are Bobby, myself (individual Jay part), Kit and Teen S! and we should take the name Bobby chose as the name they wanted to choose as their name when it was legally changed. (we did explain to her that we can't use that name on here, in which case she says we should let Bobby choose a new alternative nickname which means 'the integrated self').

It hasn't happened yet but she advises we could start by voluntarily blending to work together on real life running of the house/care of physical body and dog etc for a couple of hours a day and work from there.

I don't mind at all, Teen S is happy to try...Bobby and KIt may take a little more convincing to do more than a couple of hours a day for the longer term.


Jay

Ok I think I'm going to close this thread as a seperate question to the journal as we successfully managed to seperate TS from the other 'Yuna parts'. Just wanted to leave an update incase anyone has been following it.

Teen S and Bobby are now integrated..we'll let them stay as two for now to make sure it holds, although Kit and I temp blended with them this morning to try a workout to check the integration wasn't going to impede further physical recovery.

Kit has now returned inside and has said she agrees with Kate up to a point but feels she (Kit) needs to remain seperate in case of any future emergencies, otherwise she can not do her job as a protector/emergency caretaker properly if she is at the front integrated within someone else 24/7.

It is possible I may eventually join the Integration but not right now. It's been marked down for an attempt in 2024. I will however temp blend with Bobby for an hour or so everyday to work together on getting jobs done around the house and doing physio 2-3 times a week and we'll build up from there.

Kit has returned inside to work with the remaining 'yuna parts' who she now believes are fragments of both 'Maddie' and 'Thea' who we previously thought had just vanished from the system! She believes the difficulty is because they were never a part of the 'internal system' , as when they were the 'outside life hosts' (at the busiest times of our life socially too) neither had any awareness AT ALL of other alters or the inside world existing. They were also the two most heavily affected by 'somataform symptoms' when they were out.

We're hoping it's a 'fixable issue' ..or that some kind of solution can be found so they are happy and can understand that they are part of system.

Jay