Re-splitting/Re-fusing

Hi

Well it seems the littles were upset about all the changes the system/inner world has been going through and because Sioux had fused with Jay (along with a few other EP fragments) to give Jay more life memories.

We've been asked to ask if they can safely unfuse without damaging either one and so Jay still retains the skills/memories from Sioux if they split and Sioux returns inside to live with the littles?

Another idea was for me and Juno to fuse with Jay & Kathy ..so me with Jay (humans hosts) Juno & Kathy re-fuse ...(Kathy was a split from Juno anyway) ..would that gives us 'Yuna/Jay' the ability to age-slide between 15 (my preferred age) and adult (Jay's age) freely and still exist co-con with Juno/Kathy?

If they can safely re-split they will do so inside and Jay will leave Sioux with the littles and return to the front to instead fuse with me? I'm willing to give it a go if we can safely un-fuse again if things don't work out.

We're determined to find some way of working that works for everyone! ...but it's a lot of Trial & Error!

Yuna

I'm not sure what to say that could be helpful, because we have no experience with this at all... we have integrated/fused with a part, but this only happened after years of intentional work and I don't think we could purposely undo it.
But for you it does seem possible so far, right? Based on your past experiences?

fireheart wrote:I'm not sure what to say that could be helpful, because we have no experience with this at all... we have integrated/fused with a part, but this only happened after years of intentional work and I don't think we could purposely undo it.
But for you it does seem possible so far, right? Based on your past experiences?

I'm not sure if we're getting the terms mixed up to be honest? We can do what we call 'temporary blends' voluntarily ...I'm not sure if this is the same thing as co-conscious or co-fronting? We all experience the same thing but its like some are sat in a back room watching..like when we visit the nature park on the weekend, whoever wants to go moves to the front..however only Kit is actually in control of the body driving the scooter. If someone else wants to do something like a little throw the ball for the dog they switch places with Kit once in the field...then switch back for Kit to drive them home.

Jay & Kathy work like this too taking turns


When Kit and Bobby play Zelda they have to choose who is doing the controls while the other watches and take turns.

Me & Juno though can simultaneously control the body one side each, we can actually function as though we were conjoined twins sharing the same physical body ..eg we can play on the switch and each control one hand and one joycon each.

I don't know if this is because we were first in the body after the stroke and one side was a bit weaker than the other and took more concentrated effort to move/control it at first? ..one side I could move automatically without thinking, the other we both had to focus hard to get it working and do a lot of physio daily on it, so it initially felt like 'I' (Yuna) only had full control of one side and someone else had to help to regain control of the other side.

By the time the others got back to the front and were able to front they had control of both sides much easier the same as before...depending whether they were naturally left or right handed.

I'm still a bit confused on the exact difference between blending, integrating & fusing??


Yuna

TheTriForce wrote:We all experience the same thing but its like some are sat in a back room watching..like when we visit the nature park on the weekend, whoever wants to go moves to the front..however only Kit is actually in control of the body driving the scooter. If someone else wants to do something like a little throw the ball for the dog they switch places with Kit once in the field...then switch back for Kit to drive them home.

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My understanding is this is co-consciousness. Basically, you are all conscious of what is going on and can switch on the fly.

TheTriForce wrote: Me & Juno though can simultaneously control the body one side each, we can actually function as though we were conjoined twins sharing the same physical body ..eg we can play on the switch and each control one hand and one joycon each.

My understanding is that this is co-fronting. Both of you are up front and in control. A slight step beyond that would be blending, which is where both of your identities are temporarily merged together.

Integration is where you all share resources and memories together even if you keep relatively separate identities.

Fusion is where you all become a single identity and person without any barriers or alters.

I hope that helps.

Vi

ViTheta wrote: A slight step beyond that would be blending, which is where both of your identities are temporarily merged together.

Integration is where you all share resources and memories together even if you keep relatively separate identities.

Fusion is where you all become a single identity and person without any barriers or alters.

I hope that helps.

Vi

Yes we can blend when Juno and I were going to the bro's house regularly for BBQ's through pandemic we would blend and present as one...he would only see/hear 'his sister' though some of my dialogue was coming from Juno to help me think what to say (making conversation etc). ..and she got to feel getting a hug from him too... also we do when taking our dog out ...others tend to switch though so one single identity is playing host at once with maybe the other(s) in background advising.

When we're out and LS wants to play AC while we're watching TV we can blend with her so we all experience multi-tasking (both watching TV and playing the game.

If she comes out when anyone else is host they let her up front so she can work the switch while they stay in the background watching the TV show they want to watch.

I'm not sure why some of us can do this better than others?

Anyway so if Sioux only integrated with Jay she should still be able to re-split and stay inside as an individual? ..but if they did properly 'fuse' she won't be able to?

I thought we were aiming for Functional Multiplicity! ..as many enjoy their own lives on the inside because of course we can do much more with our inner world bodies because they aren't so disabled as the physical body is. I can't see how us all being trapped in a body that's never gonna get back to fully functioning is going to help? or how we'd ever all be happy like that?

I thought taking turns to work shifts out front was working? ..so everyone got 'freedom time' inside and fronting was like 'coming to work' so no-one got left in the body alone full time!


Yuna

You know, it does sound like it is helping you a bunch.
And I'm glad ViTheta helped to figure out the definitions a bit more.

For us personally, we choose to strive for fusion because the dissociation and trauma responses hurt us way more than they protect us at this point.
So that's a reason why some people work on decreasing trauma symptoms and only want to have one identity in the end (because that's quite connected). But it's not like you *have* to do therapy and strive for that, it's just one of the options and it's very personal to know what would be best.

For us, we plan on going for functional multiplicity because we all love having our own identities as well as the fact that, being autistic, having to mask is already ingrained, so being a single personality isn't necessarily the best option anyway. We are just working on having our own voices and reducing the trauma as much as we can.

Lilith.

Hi

Kit here...I'm out for a couple of days to do some more research on this to see if it would be safe. If not little Susie will just have to accept that Sioux can't return to the inside without it damaging one or both of them.

It seems Phoenix again was the instigator of the stunt they pulled..the littles unfortunately are easy to manipulate and had told them they were just pretending/playing so it was ok.

Phoenix is being dealt with by the changeling elders, they will probably be confined to the homeworld and banned from taking human form, blending with any human host/alter or being anywhere near the front ever again. They have been given plenty of chances including a rebirth after the stroke incase that was the cause of their behaviour.

I can understand how fusion can work for some. I think its possible 'Thea' was fusion for us (when we was our most successful socially) but the breakdown we suffered caused the beginning of the split..been in the autism unit 9 months didn't help at all either or social media keeping a more physically disabled alter stuck out front (as they were constantly re-triggered to the front by the expectation to be available almost 24/7...we never recovered to 'Thea's level of 'social ability' again.

I think now we've found out about each other and how many they're are..each others issues ..the body's current level of disability and the life we're stuck in etc...Functional Multiplicity is the only thing that's gonna for us work now.

I think there was an idea that from a practical viewpoint a partial fusion of just all social mask alters may produce one more socially proficient social mask on an 'as and when needed' basis, but it never occurred to us that the littles on the inside may have an attachment to specific alters.

I'm sure I've read fusions can come undone especially when they haven't been fused long if it didn't work so come to see if I can find out more on that.

Yuna will be back at weekend if family turn up to finish fencing (weathers turned bad here so garden stuff got cancelled) then Jay hopefully next week.

Thanks for your replies

Kit