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Re: How much do you know about why you split?

Postby Eliseahorse » Tue May 03, 2022 2:41 pm

I think it is wrong to pin down a date because then you are establishing a hierarchy.

Tw suicide mention

If you were to ask the others when I was first on the scene they would tell you maybe 7 (my first attempt to kill us) but they would be wrong. I have memories from when we were in bursary being punished for being lefthanded. Noone else has those memories they are mine alone. So on that basis I have been around since we were 2 1/2 but I wouldn't claim that personally as I don't feel different from the others in those memories. if someone were to play my memories on a reel the earliest ones would be played by an actor who looked and sounded like the body the midsection I'd look like Mr tumnus or the creepy faun from pans Labyrinth more recent ones I'm just a guy with a goatee. By 7 I was and entirely different person I wasn't even the same species as the body but what about the time between 2 1/2 and 7 at what point did I stop becoming part of the whole.

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There are 4 of us who can trace our earliest memories to before the birth of our first sibling (so younger than 3 1/2) all 4 of us I believe were always present. Life prevented us from fusing something happened and we solidified as seperate people. All 4 of us have the ability to splinter, our protector splintered from one of the others when they were powerless to stop me, we don't know which, does it even matter? Our mother figure splintered from one of the littles to balance the protector (who is a bit of a loose cannon), we don't know which we don't know when, does it matter? Lord knows where the caretaker comes from. Does it matter? One of our newly concious alters who is only just learning to front developed from a fragment of grief that was created when we were 2. So did she "become" back then or does she only count as existing from them moment she became self conscious.

Acordind to the Triad of dissociation an alter developes from the constant dissociation of similar memory types into the same neuron pool. It happens in 3 stages 1: total or partial memory is hived off behind an anmesica
wall - observable symptoms look like dp/dr/spotty memory
2: memories behind amnesia wall layer up sufficiently to make connections which become triggers for activation, level of influence on body depends on other information available to the memory pool detailed memory pools start forming conciousness some pools may have a single function available to them eg.running. those capable of being interviewed during therapy will display the same level of self awareness as a preschool child capable of understanding they are seperate from their playmates but incapable of identifying which of their likes are their opinion or things that they do because they mimic the culture they are raised in- observable symptoms may look like BPD/osdd/dissociative fuge
3. Memory pools now have at minimum similar number of connections to the memory bank of a young child (traceable through various psycho analytical methods) they are capable of concious thought, formulating opinion based on past experience, reacting to their surroundings, actual mental age of these developed personalities varies. - observable symptoms osdd / did

At what point in this Triad does an alter count as having split? Not all stage 1 pools go on to becoming alters but all alters start at stage 1.
Body in its 30's system known collectively as Eli
M 30
M24
F17
F33
NB19
F???
3 little alters
Peter (7)
Shadow (2/3)
Clovis (5)
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Re: How much do you know about why you split?

Postby OMNICELL » Tue May 03, 2022 2:53 pm

Im not sure I want to go there.
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Ya; that sounds like a good idea asking ones alters; However, I dont know if I want to; Im like; thats to close to home and right now Im not sure I want to go back there.
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What caused me to split; or how did I know; My personality started to go into slow motion and I wasnt present anymore; everything became glassy and 2 dimensional; I wasnt in reality anymore.. I became psychotically sick.
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Re: How much do you know about why you split?

Postby ganjakites » Thu May 05, 2022 12:09 pm

You split to give urself room to do the things necessary to love life bothered by minimal things
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Re: How much do you know about why you split?

Postby spinningtops » Fri May 06, 2022 2:03 am

a lot of extreme anger aimed at us on a consistent basis beyond an acceptable level. no way to stop it from happening and it just being 'too much, and at a time that was too young' to deal with. and also possibly some neglect issues as well. idk.
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Re: How much do you know about why you split?

Postby BritPlus6 » Sat May 07, 2022 9:07 pm

D (manager) and L (5.5 yr old) split when the body was less than 4 years old. I don't know exact age, though I remember the exact situation. I only know it was less than 4 years old, because I asked my mother a question about the house we lived in during that memory, and she was surprised I remembered because we moved out of that house before the body turned 4.

*edit to add*
D does not believe she and L split from a fused consciousness. She believes we were not fully integrated at that point, and that it was simply the moment that I became aware of the three separate ego states. Then later, D "put L away" to keep her safe and preserve her, and made me forget about L. I grew up with D always in my head. I thought everyone had internal dialogue and conflicting thoughts and emotions, so I didn't think anything of it.


Next came V. Our father was not a good man. I'll just leave it at that. There was a point right after my mother left him and he was living in a tiny apartment. My sister and I had gone to visit him right after my parents's break up. He knelt in front of my sister and me, hugged us, and started to cry. I was torn between feeling sad because a parent I loved was hurting but feeling angry because I felt like he didn't have a right to be sad after everything he had done. I was maybe 10 years old or 11. In that moment of extrem inner conflict, V split off and any and all emotions went away. The emotions just flat-lined.

B split off sometime during puberty. I had sexual desire for things that I thought were wrong, weird, not normal, and depraved. I fought this and shoved those feelings down. Again, the inner conflict over the issue resulted in B splitting off. And anytime I had sexual urges B would end up fronting. I later found out she held other trauma memories.

Kiyiya (wolf-girl)- was actually a split off of my little and happened about 5 years ago. L started remembering things D (our system manager) didn't want L to remember, also, L started maturing, and that freaked her out because she felt like our husband wouldn't love her anymore if she grew up. So, K split off. K holds those memories D doesn't want L to have, and K was able to mature as she interacted with the world around us.

About a year ago, I became aware of H. I am not sure how long she has had a separate consciousness apart from the rest of the system, but given her shyness and level of watchfulness, I believe she was some sort of protector who potentially signaled the others when a switch needed to happen. A type of behind-the-scenes gate-keeper. Give her age (she identifies as early 20's) I suspect she went dormant after I moved out of my father's home and constant triggers were removed from my everyday environment. She only interacts with my husband, and even that is not often. Mostly, when it's dark and quiet, and she just wants assurances that we are safe. She associates the sound of his heartbeat with safety.

I was not aware of the others in the system until I was in my 30's and L fronted to our husband (who we were then dating) because she thought he was nice and wanted to meet him. This then triggered Brittney to front to our husband, in an effort to push him away and to discourage L from getting any more attached to him, because getting close was dangerous. This in turn, triggered D to come to the front and out herself, because she believed our husband was good for us and trustworthy, so she was trying to mediate between him and B so that B wouldn't be successful in pushing him away.

It was exhausting and scary at times.

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Britt- Older Teen; K-Adult, host, probably the "core"; D-Adult, system manager, gatekeeper, protector, babysitter of the little; V- Adult; H- Adult; L- Little; W- wolf/girl hybrid.
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Re: How much do you know about why you split?

Postby Cristaline » Thu Jun 02, 2022 7:27 pm

Hi there.

Here some know exactly why they split, some don't.
For example, i know exactly the reason why, but not the exact event.
I was here to handle the familial abuse, which was a totally new thing for us.

Cassidie split because of horrendous abuse at school, Carrie split to hande bullying, Elsa spliced to mother us while our mom couldn't..

For some, we absolutely don't know.

We have way more than one motherly alter, Cassidie ended up splitting into 100+ fragments and alters, some with very precise cause, some who are sill mysteries.

I myself ended up splitting, i have Méloé-Lie, who is like an entitled protector.

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Co hosts: Mom, Elsa, Shadow, Alena, Elsalena, Méloé-Line, Mélo-Dies,Mélolalie,, Mélo-Mélodie CassieCassidie, Loélie,Cassidy, Callistée, Stella, DarkElsa, Marguerite, Erin
Mostly co-conscious now. We'll post our system map as soon as we can.
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Re: How much do you know about why you split?

Postby ganjakites » Thu Jun 09, 2022 2:44 pm

It's to have less areas of amnesia in affect behavior thoughts ectera.
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