Not Sure if we'll be allowed to stay :(

This is Jody and Susie

Susie wanted me to come on to explain if we disappeared, why we had..cos we were both really enjoying coming here to talk with you. Susie was particularly excited to have her own real life 'little' friends (on the 'littles board').

But our protectors and elders etc seem to be locked in a raging debate over whether it's safe for us to stay here, allowing the 'inners' to have contact with the outside world!

They do know this is the only place in the world we talk to 'real life others' and we only get to come out or be anywhere near the front if there is no-one else around.

I don't know if they will order us to go back to how it was before years ago... one person up front who doesn't know about 'the others' (wipe their memory or something?) and everybody else deep inside. If they do I won't be able to get to the front again.

It depends who is selected as the host to whether they will be able to receive messages (from us asking them to put a message on here). Phoenix has the most chance of being able to 'slip out' because she's a changeling but I'm fairly sure the elders will have already figured that out!

I hope it won't come to that, I'm helping Susie write a letter in our journal to the protectors and elders to say how this community has made her feel happy that she's not alone (meeting other littles) and we've all benefited from the knowledge we have learnt here.

Anyway hope we get chance to come back when they've made their decision!

Jody and Susie

Hope you can work this out so everyone's needs get met.

You can ask what they're worried will happen, because sometimes there are fears and beliefs based on the past, and when people start to think about whether what they fear could actually come to pass, they see that it can't or is very unlikely.

TheGangsAllHere wrote:Hope you can work this out so everyone's needs get met.

You can ask what they're worried will happen, because sometimes there are fears and beliefs based on the past, and when people start to think about whether what they fear could actually come to pass, they see that it can't or is very unlikely.

Thanks we will ask. I think part is old belief's that we broke the thing of 'not to tell anyone' because we'd be locked up...but in RL we haven't told anyone.

We don't have a busy life any more that we need that kind of constant professional one up front to 'fit in with normal' ie to attend work daily. The only person we've been able to see for over a year has been our closest relative (and their partner) who knows 'their sister is autistic and a bit quirky!!' ..so we get quite a bit of leeway as far as the little things that maybe considered 'odd for a woman our age' ie the Zelda obsession!

The body is disabled so we can't access social places easily and most of them aren't open anyway cos we're in the middle of a pandemic! ..so isolating one upfront now when they have no way to socialise with others or get any extra support needed is more cruel surely!...and could lead to another 'breakdown' of ANP. - especially as we have no real life friends our own age here in our community who visit or help us get out (well... the bodies age!).

I think they are worried someone could track us..like this post to our location and work out who we are, then if they wanted to be 'nasty' they could report us get us sectioned or something...maybe that's what the protectors are worried about? I know nothing about computers other than how to type and use google to search! ..I'm not sure what's actually possible technically?

Jody

Susie and Jody's Protectors

I'm one of the Protectors in our system. In 2014 Iain wanted to join the forum. I kind of went ballistic. Looked like a dumb deal to me. Too risky. But I set some rules - no outside names, no locations, no abuse stories, and everything had to be out on the open (no PMs). Iain said ok and I let him start. I'm glad I did. It turned out to be a pretty safe place. Iain and Evan learned about how to deal with people. We stopped feeling so alone. Iain types everything for the Littles and I look it over before we post. Mostly it's just stuff. Nothing risky.

Colin

IainEtc wrote:Susie and Jody's Protectors

I'm one of the Protectors in our system. In 2014 Iain wanted to join the forum. I kind of went ballistic. Looked like a dumb deal to me. Too risky. But I set some rules - no outside names, no locations, no abuse stories, and everything had to be out on the open (no PMs). Iain said ok and I let him start. I'm glad I did. It turned out to be a pretty safe place. Iain and Evan learned about how to deal with people. We stopped feeling so alone. Iain types everything for the Littles and I look it over before we post. Mostly it's just stuff. Nothing risky.

Colin

Thanks Colin. Our protector won't reply on here but I'm allowed to say they've read it. Some of ours are paranoid and/or get persecution complex, it seems someone went into mass panic thinking I was going to name everyone on the 'roll call' post or they were going to have to 'say hello' on here and told the protector we were in danger of being 'found'

Some are very reclusive and don't like people to know they exist! - even people they're never likely to meet in real life!

Jody

i can relate a lot to the fears you wrote here that the protectors are having.

spinningtops wrote:i can relate a lot to the fears you wrote here that the protectors are having.

I can understand I guess, it would just be a shame now we all know about it and we've learned so much about how our system works.

Social Media is feeling more intrusive and cos one ANP joined up years ago when it first started (they didn't know they were 'multiple' at the time), it got more and more difficult to seperate 'internet personas' and the RL ANP cos friends from the past wanted to contact us on it, neighbours wanted to be on it, the social worker wants to be able to contact you, people from the unit wanted to stay in touch and we didn't even want our new neighburs to know we had autism. If they know you're on and you don't 'friend them' they take it so personally. Then want to know why you aren't using your own [legal] name, then you have to ask them not to call you that publicly on your page and it gets so complicated!! We ended up leaving and aren't allowed on the popular SM sites.

Our system always worked so well because it was much easier to keep 'home life' and university/work life seperate back in the 80's/90's.

The elders aren't fond of the internet intrusion but accept we need it to get food and stuff cos of our location and health issues (and we have no car). But also on the other hand we have learned so much through google. we'd never have had access in RL to the kind of medical info and others life stories that we have via the internet to understand ourselves more.

They are still debating about what would be the most effective solution. On a forum where no-one will ever meet you it doesn't matter so much if a different 'team' or alter comes on here to who you'd meet in RL, but when neighbours want to be able to chat with you too (to check you're still alive during isolation!) they expect to be talking to the same person they see in the body they 'know as you' {legal name} and know when they come to your door or see you in the street!

In a way all this interconnectivity (and our inability to travel freely or easily as we used to) has made it harder from the perspective of a 'multiple system'. CCTV everywhere on the streets of towns, taxi's and public transport make it difficult for a different alter to be able to go out in public. And people are so aggressive these days (like people been attacked for being asked to wear a mask) cos everyone else has been locked inside, it's too dangerous to risk given the bodies health issues.

Which kind of makes having somewhere like here to come with others in the same situation even more important!

Jody

Nobody has to do anything on the forum (appart from respecting the rules).

You are the ones who choose how you want to use the forum. If you want to use nicknames or real names. What you want to talk about. Where you want to post.

If you want to use the forum to read what others say and merely say "hello" from time to time or ask a question, it's completely okay!

The "roll call" is only a tool you can use but does not have to use. If you prefer doing your own private "roll calls" at home in a private document, it's completely okay too!

Not everybody likes to share everything on the forum. Even though we appear to share a lot, there is also a lot that we keep private! (a lot of our inner dynamics, for example) We only share what we are comfortable sharing. What we are not comfortable sharing, most of it is not even mentionned and nobody on the forums knows it exists!

If it can reassure your protectors: you choose how you interact on the forums. Nobody can make you share what you don't want to share.

Have a nice day!

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Urielle.

ArbreMonde wrote:Nobody has to do anything on the forum (appart from respecting the rules).

You are the ones who choose how you want to use the forum. If you want to use nicknames or real names. What you want to talk about. Where you want to post.

If you want to use the forum to read what others say and merely say "hello" from time to time or ask a question, it's completely okay!

The "roll call" is only a tool you can use but does not have to use. If you prefer doing your own private "roll calls" at home in a private document, it's completely okay too!

Not everybody likes to share everything on the forum. Even though we appear to share a lot, there is also a lot that we keep private! (a lot of our inner dynamics, for example) We only share what we are comfortable sharing. What we are not comfortable sharing, most of it is not even mentionned and nobody on the forums knows it exists!

If it can reassure your protectors: you choose how you interact on the forums. Nobody can make you share what you don't want to share.

Have a nice day!

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Urielle.

Thanks..Freedom to choose is a novel concept for some of us, who are used to feeling compelled/pressured to make sure we are following rules/fitting in with what others consider 'normal'.

P. says we'll know by the end of the bank holiday, they're just agreeing on the rules. They do see the importance of 'little Susie' having access to the 'littles chat' on here but she's only 6. She only wants to talk about stuff like teddies and animal crossing!

I have a feeling I may have a longer list of rules if I want to post on more grown up stuff relating to our system!

Jody