by SystemFlo » Sun Oct 18, 2020 7:58 pm
I don't know if this is helpful at all, maybe not because the answer to the question asked is I don't know. Would like to, tho. But maybe I can still say something that helps. I thought of sending this day earlier, and now I realize that this is already a bit off, cause you found out what I have to say by yourself too, at least part of it.
When we switch completely I'm either knocked out of consciousness just like that, or have amnesia about how it happened and don't remember anyone coming in front of me or know how it happened. I only remember one time when someone else controlled the body from in front of me, but I also had ability to control, I just chose not to. Simply because it felt stupid to do that when someone is in front of me, and came there on purpose. We only switch fully (the way I have no memory of) at home alone.
That time we weren't home, but still alone in a place where we knew no one else will come to for several days, so it's safe. Sami pushed me to back and was there in front of me. I didn't do anything. I remember suddenly realizing he's there close and next second he had pushed me back. I think he let me keep the ability to control the body too, to not make it feel scary. And because I was not scared, I could let go and didn't do anything, just looked at what he wants do to. Actually I was super curious, because like I told I have no clue what anyone usually does or who's been out and when. He wanted to use the computer I was on, and started to do that. Next thing I know is that I'm waking up from the couch we were on and he's gone. I do remember sleeping, he sometimes make me sleep when he's out. Or maybe I fall in sleep naturally and he doesn't control that, but what ever, me sleeping sitting down is a clue that it might be Sami had been using the body.
My point is, that maybe you don't have to know, or at least not practice alone, Asti can also practice how to push you and step in front. Maybe stepping in front will naturally move you? I don't remember moving anywhere, when I was "moved" from the front, I don't remember I needed to step back literally because of "being pushed".
Which way of doing the switch makes more sense to you two, is probably up to which one of you is "stronger" that way. In our system I have no idea how to let someone out or how to stop them or how to come back. Those things just happen to me. Is it hard if you both try to do your own thing at the same time? You try to give space in consciousness by letting yourself to get blurred, if it starts to feel like that, or give space if you feel a push, and Asti tries to either take control over the consciousness or to step further to front.
If you usually switch by not "coming to front" but rather "coming out" (taking the consciousness in control), maybe that way of practicing makes more sense or may feel easier. Or is the point to keep you also there, while Asti is in control?
Flor
***I can try ask if any of Fourteens (subsystem: a part with DID) knows more about this. They're better at finding each other and getting people out on purpose than I am. Difference is that they do it mostly in inner world, but they have done it also in here, in "outside outside" from their point of view. (Their normal "outside" is inner world, because they do have their own inner worlds as well).
Our most active little, Leon, age 4, seems to be strongest like that. If he wants out, he can push others out also by accident. Leon is part of system Fourteen. But he's 4 and maybe not that good at explaining.